Suicide: Some thoughts and genuine questions for any atemptees out thereSubmitted by Spam at 2006-03-25 14:23:45 EST
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As a fairly enlightenined and open minded individual, I find the act of self-termination something which has always confused and hence intrigued me. I’ll never be able to understand what could possibly motivate somebody to feel the need to end their own existence. For this person to feel that there was nothing, absolutely NOTHING left in this world that could possibly ease the pain that they are currently feeling. The idea seems terribly short-sighted to me.
And that’s what it’s all about right? Easing pain? Or maybe I’ve missed something.
Seriously, and I’m talking to any attemptee’s out there now, how fucking unimaginative do you have to be to be sitting there one lonely evening and actually think to yourself that the best thing you can do right now would be to calmly spend a few minutes writing a letter to your loved ones and then go to your favourite tree in the garden with a length of rope ready to end it all.
So you’ve got nothing to live for huh? So the mere idea of waking up tomorrow morning and facing the same pain again is more that you can bare?
WELL DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEN YOU FUCKING PUSSY.
Take advantage of your situation: You’re at rock bottom, you’ve got nothing to lose and you no longer care whether you live or die, right? Well don’t you see what this means?
IT MEANS THAT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
Rob a bank. Start a fight with 25 gun-toting gangsters. Go chat up that girl you were always too afraid to talk to. Better yet, apply for MASSIVE amounts of credit from various companies and proceed to rack up monumental amounts of debt in a mammoth shopping spree. you can then sell all of your purchases and use the cash to flee the country. May I suggest Jamaica?
Once you’ve made the decision to kill yourself, there are no consequences for anything you do from that moment because if whatever it is you DO do fails horribly you can always go back to plan A. It’s not like things are going to get any worse right?
It’s not that simple though is it? If you’ve been there yourself you’re probably sitting there thinking to yourself “you just don’t understand man.” And you’re right I don’t - I’ve never been there, and god willing, I never will. So I would appreciate you explaining it to me.
There are exceptions of course. The guy who loses his entire family in a car accident because he fell asleep at the wheel for example. Fair one, I’d probably do the same. But the thing is, the two people I have known that have taken this route were not in that situation.
Ever been to a suicide’s funeral? If you have, you’ll know that the predominant emotion throughout the group in one of helpless confusion. ‘Why did he do it?’, ‘Why didn’t she do X instead?’ etc, etc.
I guess the experience of losing a friend to this is what fuels my morbid curiosity and like all people in this situation I find myself in a futile search for answers that don’t really matter.
So Uber, you guys are a fairly fucked up and overly medicated group and I’m sure there are a few of you who have actually made ‘genuine’ attempts at suicide. To these people I would like to respectfully ask the following questions so as to alleviate my (and other’s) ignorance..
1. After making the decision, did you ever consider my thoughts above regarding having nothing to lose and just doing something fucking crazy, Joe Vs The Volcano style? if so, why didn’t you go through with it?
2. How could you justify the inevitable pain caused by your death to your friends and family? Did you even consider them? Having been a griever, I find ETS’s flippant ‘it must be very inconvenient’ comment a touch insulting. Yes mate, it IS fucking inconvenient and maybe if people truly realised the amount off pain and damage such an act causes to such a large group of people then they might try and think of some other way to alleviate their pain.
3. if you have attempted (and apparently failed) to kill yourself, and assuming that you have no immediate plans to try again, do you now acknowledge that it was a mistake, and, dare I say, a stupid idea?
4. what caused that realisation?
And finally, as an aside which I feel a few Americans may get offended over or at least feel a touch uncomfortable about, I would like to talk about the infamous ‘Jumpers’ from Sept 11th. The following question is sparked from a documentary I saw recently about a particular photo from that historic day titled ‘The falling man’. A photo which, even though I have no real strength of feeling about that day being far removed from it as I was, I still find uncomfortable to look at. A photo which, incidentally, was vilified by the American public and subsequently but very consciously ignored - even though it incites more emotion (in me at least) than any other still photograph I’ve ever seen.
5. In the eyes of the catholic church, would those poor souls who flung themselves from the burning towers actually be considered suicides, and hence automatically committed to the fiery depths of hell for all eternity where Harvey Keitel will get his jollies by thrusting pineapples in uncomfortable places? (not the back of the Volkswagen)?
6. If so, would it not be reasonable to consider that they may have felt that jumping was the best way to actually extend their life, rather than end it prematurely, if only for a few seconds?
Again, it’s not my intention to insult anyone here and don’t tell me ‘you just don’t understand’ because instead, you could actually use this as an opportunity to educate me.
I await your responses.
Below is the ‘Falling Man’ picture which, as previously stated, some of you may find uncomfortable.
The Falling Man.jpg