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Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-11 14:24:25 EDT
Rating: 1.38 on 83 ratings (83 reviews) (Review this item) (V)

"Never Forget?"

Why the fuck not?

Why would you want to sit there constantly dwelling on past tragedies? (and despite the overly patriotic knee-jerk I am sure you are already feeling creep up on you, don't for a single second think that I don't think what happened was terrible tragedy).

And I don't care if some of your mates died that day. I have NEVER tried to rub the death of a loved one in somebody's face and asked them to feel some sort of emotion about it because to be honest, that's fucking retarded. So when I tell you that I no longer have ANY feelings whatsoever about the WTC incident and so don't particularly want to sit here remembering it for 2 minutes don't you fucking dare try and justify your touchy feely bandwagon mentality by citing the death of 28 of your mates, I care about them as much as you care about my mate who committed suicide a couple of years back. Not One Fucking Iota.

But you know, you're probably right, don't forget it. Keep it in the forefront of your mid at all times. Have a clear picture of people jumping out of those two buildings in your head ready to call up whenever you're asked - THAT way it makes it so much easier for the whole terrible thing to be warped out of context and used against you - and anybody who disagrees is a heartless traitor. Worried that your civil liberties are gradually being stripped away by invasive and unconstitutional laws? - REMEMBER 9/11!! Think that your government may be getting involved in too many wars for reasons which later always turn out to be spurious? REMEMBER 9/11!! Concerned that maybe the anti-Muslim movement is starting to take a nasty turn and possibly Islam may be being demonised somewhat to justify most of the above? REMEMBER 9/11!!

I mean, if people were ever to actually FORGET past atrocities rather than dredging them up every year and guilting everybody into pretending to have some semblance of feeling about it that they really don't, then the warring factions of the world may actually move on from their differences and make some effort to be at least civil to each other.

And who the fuck wants that?

Okay, so maybe the above paragraph is slightly optimistic, maybe there will never be any kind of peace in this world. but I tell you one thing for certain: Nothing will change as long as you keep holding on to mistakes of the past.

So I say: Forget 9/11 and move forward.

And to the terrorists I say forget Afghanitan and Iraq.

And in a few years time I'll be telling them to forget Iran.



Oh and PS: Dying doesn't make you a fucking brave hero. 3000+ people died that day, law of probability state that some of them were fucking wankers and I'm willing to bet that some of them died pissing in their pants cowering under an office desk. Nothing wrong with that, I'd have done the same. But realise that when you sit there and deify people who you've never met simply because their death was high-profile, you piss all over the memories of the true heroes involved.


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Submitted by Berty at 2008-10-03 10:38:21 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Shit happens.

Submitted by Lanik at 2008-09-15 11:21:22 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

If I want to bitch out someone for jumping on the bandwagon I'll do so. You might think it's wrong for me to do that but thats YOUR opinion and the way you view things. I'll slam whoever the fuck I please. You don't know EVERYONE. People die. Get over it.

Submitted by Stabkill at 2008-09-14 14:00:32 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

I think people who say never forget are specifically doing so due to the phrase "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it."

But you are right about the wanker part. There are soldiers who die in Iraq due to stupidity that are also woman-beating alcoholics who are hardly "heroes" as well.

Submitted by kaos-king at 2008-09-13 14:21:20 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Siren at 2008-09-13 13:13:08 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Spam (user info) at 2008-09-13 04:54:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Submitted by Siren (user info) at 2008-09-12 22:13:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

Maybe you wanted your message to reach more people than just Tiger (such as anyone sharing her opinion), but again, you purposefully wrote this in direct response to her post. It's just sad that you were compelled to do such a thing. It's completely unnecessary. I'm not saying hers was necessary, but a response to it is even less so. You're right, 99% of the world is retarded and I put the both of you in that group. Maybe I'm a part of that group, too, for caring at all about uberfolk who I've only seen in 2 dimensions. I'm simply trying to stick up for the nicer one of you.

If you don't care about the victims, then don't care about them. Slamming people who show that they do care is pointless. It's like if you were walking down the street wearing your favorite band t-shirt and somebody walks up to you and says, "WHY YOU GOTTA BE RUBBING REO SPEEDWAGON IN MY FACE! STOP IT I HATE YOU AND YOUR BAND. I'M NOT GONNA KEEP ON LOVIN' YOU!"

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This is total bullshit on so many different levels.

I'm not 'slamming' people because they care at all, I'm merely saying the manner in which some people show it is disgusting. Some people are more bothered about being SEEN to care than they are about the event itself. Other people actually go out of their way to try and get people to share their grief.

If somebody wants to grieve over the loss of a loved one, then I'm not the sort of heartless cunt to see anything wrong with that. But to actually INSTRUCT me to grieve as well is crass and a damn site more unnecessary than this post and before you disagree with me, posting a photo of everybody that died with a title TELLING ME "Never Forget" IS an instruction and is most certainly rubbing in peoples faces. Also your analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever unless you feel that 9/11 was so unimportant that you can compare it your favorite band.

For you to say that you are sticking up for the nicer one of us is fucking stupid, because let's face it honey, you know pretty much squat about who I am and what I do.

I'll tell you one thing though, I may come across like some sort of cunt, but I wouldn't pretend to care about a subject by putting on PUBLIC DISPLAY of grief and then be all PROUD (see comment below), That my post had garnered some attention; almost tacitly admitting that the sole reason I pretended to care about 9/11 was to stir up a shit storm. I also wouldn't come to a website, wind people up to the point where I start getting loads of negative attention and then play the weeping, wounded heroine citing lines like 'It's cool to hate me', and 'You're only saying that because it's me' and shit like that as my defense, trying to make it look like I'm being bullied when the truth is actually quite far from that.

Both of these are ugly, ugly traits and not things which a 'nice' person would do.

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Do you have reading comprehension problems? I said people who SHOW they care. Not BECAUSE they care. That's what the analogy was all about. Showing support for something. I'm not equating the two situations. That's not the purpose of an analogy.

Don't call me honey. Ever.

I don't think Tiger wants you to grieve with her, it's just a memorial post like any memorial anywhere. Do you think the Vietnam Memorial in DC is rubbing it people's faces? It's a huge chunk of marble or whatever with thousands of names on it, just screaming for attention in one of the biggest tourist locations in the US. I'll clear this up since you are easily confused- I know that Tiger's post isn't equal in craftmanship, value, or creativity or anything else to the Vietnam Memorial. I'm only trying to make a point. People memorialize different occasions in order to keep the memory alive. Whether you agree with it or not, that's what they're all there for.

Memorials (and Tiger's post) are in existence for those who need them or want to remember. They exist to recollect and meditate on. I just think you are irrationally jumping down her throat and anyone else you are directing your reply post to.

There are insane people out there who do cram this 9/11 shit down our throats (Rudy Giuliani), but I don't think she's one of them.

I guess it's all open for interpretation, though. When I saw her post, I just rolled my eyes and went on about my business. For you, you took it as a threat to your freedom of thought like she was trying to brainwash you and maybe you overreacted. Just a bit. That makes you a jerk and Tiger not, in my experience with the both of you here on uber. That's all I have to go by. I don't care who you really are.

Lastly, I don't condone whatever it is she said in your comments. If you and all the other negative commentators hadn't begun said shit storm, it would've remained a simple message. ALL posts submitted to this site are displayed in order to get attention. We post in order to get feedback, that's why we're here and not in spiral-bound notebooks in our bedrooms.



Submitted by Fungah at 2008-09-13 11:16:08 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

fecal matter, faecal matter, feces, faeces, BM, stool, ordure, dejection, body waste, excretion, excreta, excrement, excretory product

Submitted by Fungah at 2008-09-13 11:15:19 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

REMEMBER THE CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by Fungah at 2008-09-13 11:14:02 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Wise words.... I'm rendered speechless.

Everyone here, while forgetting that which maybe should not be remembered, remember this: I just took a crap. It nearly filled the toilet bowl, so great was its size. And in this crap, which was fibrous and of a marbled colour of brown, there were what appeared to be chunks of peas and carrots, which were dark green and bright orange respectively. So yes, forget 9/11, and ignore the atrocities committed in the name of civilians, many of whom would likely have died eventually anyway, and remember fungah's crap, which I'm dedicating as of this moment to the crap I took yesterday, which though fibrous was lacking in the mottled colour and the presence of peas/corn that the crap I just took today was so luckily posessed of.

Forget the towers... and remember the crap.

God bless, America.


Submitted by beeltea at 2008-09-13 06:54:09 EDT (#)
Rating: -2

anyway, what i mean is... thanks for the advice, asshole. I live in New York and I've managed to go this long without thinking about it; yet you want to bring it up again. Sort of contradictory to youur whole point.

Submitted by beeltea at 2008-09-13 06:47:34 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

REMEMBER THE ALAMO! REMEMBER THE MAINE! REMEMBER THE EUROPEAN ARMS RACE!

Oh! De-ah! I shan't bring up the trobled pahhhhst of the Europeans ahnd british! For they have never haaad any wars! They are all peaceful people and we would do right to follow! Indeed!

Submitted by beeltea at 2008-09-13 06:03:14 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

hey, just by "never remembering" you just made us remember.

God Bless You. You are a hero!!!!!

YOU SHOULD MOVE HERE, YOU'RE ALREADY A PATRIOT.

NEVAR FERGET

Submitted by redskieslookfake at 2008-09-13 05:23:16 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Indeed Spammo.

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-13 04:54:44 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Siren (user info) at 2008-09-12 22:13:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

Maybe you wanted your message to reach more people than just Tiger (such as anyone sharing her opinion), but again, you purposefully wrote this in direct response to her post. It's just sad that you were compelled to do such a thing. It's completely unnecessary. I'm not saying hers was necessary, but a response to it is even less so. You're right, 99% of the world is retarded and I put the both of you in that group. Maybe I'm a part of that group, too, for caring at all about uberfolk who I've only seen in 2 dimensions. I'm simply trying to stick up for the nicer one of you.

If you don't care about the victims, then don't care about them. Slamming people who show that they do care is pointless. It's like if you were walking down the street wearing your favorite band t-shirt and somebody walks up to you and says, "WHY YOU GOTTA BE RUBBING REO SPEEDWAGON IN MY FACE! STOP IT I HATE YOU AND YOUR BAND. I'M NOT GONNA KEEP ON LOVIN' YOU!"

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This is total bullshit on so many different levels.

I'm not 'slamming' people because they care at all, I'm merely saying the manner in which some people show it is disgusting. Some people are more bothered about being SEEN to care than they are about the event itself. Other people actually go out of their way to try and get people to share their grief.

If somebody wants to grieve over the loss of a loved one, then I'm not the sort of heartless cunt to see anything wrong with that. But to actually INSTRUCT me to grieve as well is crass and a damn site more unnecessary than this post and before you disagree with me, posting a photo of everybody that died with a title TELLING ME "Never Forget" IS an instruction and is most certainly rubbing in peoples faces. Also your analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever unless you feel that 9/11 was so unimportant that you can compare it your favorite band.

For you to say that you are sticking up for the nicer one of us is fucking stupid, because let's face it honey, you know pretty much squat about who I am and what I do.

I'll tell you one thing though, I may come across like some sort of cunt, but I wouldn't pretend to care about a subject by putting on PUBLIC DISPLAY of grief and then be all PROUD (see comment below), That my post had garnered some attention; almost tacitly admitting that the sole reason I pretended to care about 9/11 was to stir up a shit storm. I also wouldn't come to a website, wind people up to the point where I start getting loads of negative attention and then play the weeping, wounded heroine citing lines like 'It's cool to hate me', and 'You're only saying that because it's me' and shit like that as my defense, trying to make it look like I'm being bullied when the truth is actually quite far from that.

Both of these are ugly, ugly traits and not things which a 'nice' person would do.

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-12 22:37:00 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

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Submitted by Spam (user info) at 2008-09-12 21:31:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

sandmantate: Yeah, it was just the 'brave' part of your comment that annoyed me and I kind of realise that the rest of what you were saying was on point, just It reminded me of countless news stories and The Sun articles that I'd read over the years. nothing personal.
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I see were you are coming from on this. I'm not going to pander, but I agree with you. Actually, I never think about the 'victims' when it comes to 9/11. I generally think about the rescue workers. I do think that they were brave. They may still have been wankers, but they were brave wankers.

Submitted by Siren at 2008-09-12 22:13:06 EDT (#)
Rating: -2

Maybe you wanted your message to reach more people than just Tiger (such as anyone sharing her opinion), but again, you purposefully wrote this in direct response to her post. It's just sad that you were compelled to do such a thing. It's completely unnecessary. I'm not saying hers was necessary, but a response to it is even less so. You're right, 99% of the world is retarded and I put the both of you in that group. Maybe I'm a part of that group, too, for caring at all about uberfolk who I've only seen in 2 dimensions. I'm simply trying to stick up for the nicer one of you.

If you don't care about the victims, then don't care about them. Slamming people who show that they do care is pointless. It's like if you were walking down the street wearing your favorite band t-shirt and somebody walks up to you and says, "WHY YOU GOTTA BE RUBBING REO SPEEDWAGON IN MY FACE! STOP IT I HATE YOU AND YOUR BAND. I'M NOT GONNA KEEP ON LOVIN' YOU!"


Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-12 21:36:59 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

oh and seriously - "smart enough to give her a flawless smack down"?? - What the fuck?

Anybody, on any internet forum ever, who goes online to dole out a "flawless smackdown" is a fucking mongaloid. But let's be clear on one thing, if I wanted to hand one out in this case, it would be a lot harsher, a lot more personal and wouldn't really take such a massive amount of smarts.

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-12 21:31:33 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

sandmantate: Yeah, it was just the 'brave' part of your comment that annoyed me and I kind of realise that the rest of what you were saying was on point, just It reminded me of countless news stories and The Sun articles that I'd read over the years. nothing personal.

Siren: Obviously it was TL's post and subsequent commenst that inspired this, no excuses or explanations on that score. not ALL of the comments were aimed at her however and, like all posts on Uber, it's up to the reader to decide what actually applies to them. I will reiterate that, while TL's post may certainly be the catalyst for this, she is by no means the sole target of what I'm saying. Also, it is not, nor has it ever been, my aim to 'pwmn' anybody on this site because as far as I see it, 99% of people here (as in the rest of the world) are fucking retarded, so I don't really stand anything to gain by picking fights with the mentaly handicapped.

Basically, these are my points, if you disagree with them, then it's aimed at you. If you don't, then it isn't. If you think that I've written anything specifically for you, then you are wrong and to some extent, self-involved, and need to judge me on what I say rather than if I am accuseing you of something.

Submitted by therealgeddylee at 2008-09-12 14:19:23 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Well said. I can't stand those tacky shirts that are so damned dramatic "9/11 -- NEVER FORGET THE HEROES LOL". Jesus christ, it's fucking annoying as hekk,

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-12 10:49:09 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-09-12 10:21:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2008-09-11 22:57:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

I hear you sage.

I bet that girl also needed to be the pretty one at the party. If you met a boy, she would insert herself into the conversation to take the focus away from you. Am I right?

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Not really...it wasn't often that we found ourselves in the same social situations, but on the rare occasions I did talk to her, she seemed like a nice enough girl, she wasn't too good to talk to people she didn't know, in other words. She WAS one of those girls who was WAAAY too tan and wore way too much makeup, though. She wasn't ALL bad, she was just a vapid attention whore.

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Well... I guess I had her pegged wrong.

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-12 10:21:12 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2008-09-11 22:57:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

I hear you sage.

I bet that girl also needed to be the pretty one at the party. If you met a boy, she would insert herself into the conversation to take the focus away from you. Am I right?

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Not really...it wasn't often that we found ourselves in the same social situations, but on the rare occasions I did talk to her, she seemed like a nice enough girl, she wasn't too good to talk to people she didn't know, in other words. She WAS one of those girls who was WAAAY too tan and wore way too much makeup, though. She wasn't ALL bad, she was just a vapid attention whore.

Submitted by firefly at 2008-09-12 09:56:36 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Siren at 2008-09-12 09:16:25 EDT (#)
Rating: -2

Again, there was nothing about TL's post that was rubbing anything anywhere.

Tigerlily,
Uber will attack anyone for anything- especially acts of sincerity. It is like clockwork, you're absolutely right. So, I guess you should've known better. I'm not saying the barrage of negative posts and comments are justified, or even accurate, but you (who are familiar with the way this craphole works) possibly should've taken caution. I STILL LOVE YOU. But be careful.

Spam,
If this post was directed to someone in addition to TL, why is she the only one with a link to this post in her comments? It sure seemed like you were aiming it directly at her. Especially since your title is an obvious spoof of hers. Don't flatter YOURself by thinking you're smart enough to give her a flawless smackdown. You're kind of fucking it up.

Love,
Siren©

Submitted by BubbaEarl at 2008-09-12 09:14:07 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

spot on.

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-12 08:57:56 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Also, I think you flatter yourself somewhat if you think that this post is ENTIRELY aimed at you. Especially seeing as I haven't mentioned your name anywhere. Mainly it's about comments like this http://www.ubersite.com/m/118641#2779482 and the inclusion of the word 'brave' in this http://www.ubersite.com/m/118641#2779295 as well all the other pseudo grief which it seems, is all I ever hear about on this, the most average of days.


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Spam, I feel the need to clarify my review on this subject. My inclusion of the word 'brave' was meant for the Fire Fighters and the Police who lost their lives trying to rescue others. Those guys were brave.

That is all.

Submitted by bromide at 2008-09-12 05:11:49 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Agreed.

Basically a more comprehensive, better worded version of this comment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/118641#2779326

Submitted by CarterPFly at 2008-09-12 04:41:07 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

9/11 is like Christmas....

Thats a really stupid. Jebus was born at christmass and its a celebration of life so I will just presume you ment to say easter which, while not celebrated so comercially is a consideribly more religious signifigant event/holiday. You know the one, where really nasty bad shit happened to jebus with wood and nails and thorns and stuff and then he died and came back and fulfilled the prophecy? no? oh look, shiny pressies.

Submitted by F.J.Bell at 2008-09-12 04:29:19 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Cool.

But I guess some people will want to hold memorials, and some won't. That's fine. So long as nobody's forced into something they feel uncomfortable with.

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-12 04:21:22 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2008-09-11 22:56:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0


Negative. My point being no matter what I might post, there is always someone, like yourself with panties in a bunch over some post hated on and yet thee jumps right into the midst of the same hated bandwagon. Perhaps disguised with an opposing view you bitch about the same shit you're stepping into. LIKE CLOCKWORK. There is always a rebuttal just start disagreements.

--- This kind of whiney ‘I’m the victim and you’re just doing this because it’s cool hate me’ is completely unfounded and a massive cop-out. If I had a long reputation of slinging shit around the yeah, you’d have a point but seeing as I don’t, the fact that this is you’re instant response points to a holier-than-thou attitude that, I’m sorry to say, reeks of Urbane.---





"And I don't care if some of your mates died that day. I have NEVER tried to rub the death of a loved one in somebody's face and asked them to feel some sort of emotion about it because to be honest, that's fucking retarded"


I wasn't asking anyone to feel any emotion nor was I rubbing in the death of my friends who happened to have been killed that day. I'm not deifying anyone. I'm remembering them. You're quite retarded and cocky if you believe you have power over people to make them "feel some sort of emotion . Don't give yourself that much credit sweet pea.


---Yes well, while the condescension implicit in your little ‘sweet pea’ comment may actually be hilarious, what you’ve basically done here is repeat what I wrote back to me. Thanks.

I say: “…to feel some sort of emotion about it because to be honest, that's fucking retarded”

You say: “You're quite retarded and cocky if you believe you have power over people to make them "feel some sort of emotion”

Good work Genius (see I can do the patronising thing too and yes, it IS a cheap tactic). That’s basically the equivalent of ‘I know you are but what am I?’---




"So when I tell you that I no longer have ANY feelings whatsoever about the WTC incident and so don't particularly want to sit here remembering it for 2 minutes don't you fucking dare try and justify your touchy feely bandwagon mentality by citing the death of 28 of your mates"

SO then, tell me one more thing, since you don't 'particularly want to sit here remembering this for 2 minutes and care not one iota about any of this, and my 'touchy feely bandwagon'...why even bother with this post?

---Because, while I don’t really care about the event itself, I’m sick and tired of all f the flag-waving and the T-shirts and the bumper stickers and basically the attitude that this is something that we should all care about deeply. The very title “Never Forget” is an instruction rather than a headline, so don’t even try and sit there behind ‘I wasn’t asking anybody else to care about’ because you damn well were.



Also, I think you flatter yourself somewhat if you think that this post is ENTIRELY aimed at you. Especially seeing as I haven’t mentioned your name anywhere. Mainly it’s about comments like this http://www.ubersite.com/m/118641#2779482 and the inclusion of the word ‘brave’ in this http://www.ubersite.com/m/118641#2779295 as well all the other pseudo grief which it seems, is all I ever hear about on this, the most average of days.

Submitted by haikumikoo at 2008-09-12 03:42:21 EDT (#)
Rating: 1

You sure do ask a lot of pointless questions.

Submitted by orphelia at 2008-09-12 03:36:59 EDT (#)
Rating: 0


I really enjoyed the sentiment of this post, by the way.

I think Rad, or maybe it was apollo, probably apollo, once said I e-fight like TL. This is the most insulting jibe I have ever had thrown at me on Uber.

Oh and PS: Dying doesn't make you a fucking brave hero. 3000+ people died that day, law of probability state that some of them were fucking wankers and I'm willing to bet that some of them died pissing in their pants cowering under an office desk. Nothing wrong with that, I'd have done the same. But realise that when you sit there and deify people who you've never met simply because their death was high-profile, you piss all over the memories of the true heroes involved.

That bit was gold, by the way.

Still no +2 though. Cunt.

Submitted by TigerLilly at 2008-09-12 01:19:28 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2008-09-12 01:07:20 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1

SO then, tell me one more thing, since you don't 'particularly want to sit here remembering this for 2 minutes and care not one iota about any of this, and my 'touchy feely bandwagon'...why even bother with this post?
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I'm guessing it's probably because he feels that it is important someone let you know how much you suck.


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Well, he seems like a pretty smart guy. Why don't you let him answer for himself?

I'm guessing he can.

Submitted by haikumikoo at 2008-09-12 01:07:20 EDT (#)
Rating: 1

SO then, tell me one more thing, since you don't 'particularly want to sit here remembering this for 2 minutes and care not one iota about any of this, and my 'touchy feely bandwagon'...why even bother with this post?
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I'm guessing it's probably because he feels that it is important someone let you know how much you suck.

Submitted by rob_berg at 2008-09-11 23:47:16 EDT (#)
Rating: 2


Preach it brother hampork.

Submitted by Chroniclysm at 2008-09-11 23:21:29 EDT (#)
Rating: 1

Submitted by Falafel at 2008-09-11 23:05:18 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

But Spam.. we've always been at war with Eastasia.

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-11 22:57:12 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

I hear you sage.

I bet that girl also needed to be the pretty one at the party. If you met a boy, she would insert herself into the conversation to take the focus away from you. Am I right?

Submitted by TigerLilly at 2008-09-11 22:56:17 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Spam (user info) at 2008-09-11 17:03:48 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

So you are actually admitting that you use 9/11 and your feigned grief over your dead friends to garner attention?

wow.

I don't think anybody has ever proved my point so thoroughly.


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Negative. My point being no matter what I might post, there is always someone, like yourself with panties in a bunch over some post hated on and yet thee jumps right into the midst of the same hated bandwagon. Perhaps disguised with an opposing view you bitch about the same shit you're stepping into. LIKE CLOCKWORK. There is always a rebuttal just start disagreements.

"And I don't care if some of your mates died that day. I have NEVER tried to rub the death of a loved one in somebody's face and asked them to feel some sort of emotion about it because to be honest, that's fucking retarded"


I wasn't asking anyone to feel any emotion nor was I rubbing in the death of my friends who happened to have been killed that day. I'm not deifying anyone. I'm remembering them. You're quite retarded and cocky if you believe you have power over people to make them “feel some sort of emotion . Don't give yourself that much credit sweet pea.


"So when I tell you that I no longer have ANY feelings whatsoever about the WTC incident and so don't particularly want to sit here remembering it for 2 minutes don't you fucking dare try and justify your touchy feely bandwagon mentality by citing the death of 28 of your mates"

SO then, tell me one more thing, since you don’t 'particularly want to sit here remembering this for 2 minutes and care not one iota about any of this, and my ‘touchy feely bandwagon’…why even bother with this post?




Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 22:41:01 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Oh yeah, and I went to college in VA, which is obviously FAR from CO, and I'm talking circa 2001-2002 era when this girl got all this attention. She used to speak in front of the whole fucking school about it and it just pissed me off and I almost walked out, and when I was sitting there shaking my head and rolling my eyes while she was sitting there crying about how she wishes she was there (WHAT THE FUCK EVER, BITCH!!!!) everyone around me probably thought I was the most insensitive person in the world. But I'm not, really...its just annoying as crap and I refused to participate in the feigned reality of her experience. The people really involved would rather not talk about it I bet, because they'd probably give ANYTHING for it to not be a reality, and it's certainly not one they'd want to rehash every single year (at least I would fall into that category). But the fucking attention whores want to keep reliving it because it is some sick, weirdo claim to fame that they have..."oh, I was THERE!! Well, I went to that school, anyways. I REMEMBER!!" Fucking idiots.

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 22:30:45 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2008-09-11 16:51:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2008-09-11 16:33:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:42:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Well said. People did (and keep doing) this shit with the Columbine and Tech tragedies also. Gets quite old after a while, but no amount of logic will convince them to loosen their weirdo fanatical grip on it.

I once tried to tell a girl in my dorm that just because someone survived Columbine that doesn't make her a hero, nor does it give her any rights to speak about it. Shit...the girl who talked about it wasn't even at the school that day! But the fact that she knew of the people that died (and probably some of them were close friends), she got the fucking royal treatment and everyone at my school idolized her, which made me just want to vomit in her face. How fucking ridiculous! It is fucking OVER, people!
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the first college i went to was in fort collins, i knew a kid who was there that day and saw shit and lost friends. he definitely did not get that treatment. didn't get any at all really. maybe cuz it was in colorado.

i dunno, i'm in fairfield county ct now. we are the commuter village for nyc. i didn't see anything anywhere in the towns around me all the way down to stamford yesterday. didn't hear anything on the radio this morning on two new york stations. didn't see anything today anywhere. maybe the close to home thing counts for how it's handled?

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There is something to be said about that. When I was a child, one of my classmates was strangled to death. Of course, we had the normal mourning period and we built the student a summer garden as a class project. The weird thing is; the students' close friends seemed to absorb the loss, mourn and then move on, while the kids who weren't even friends with the student were the ones who had to miss days of school, talk to the school counselor everyday, and basically just be lavished with attention. They totally aped a tragedy and played drama queen with it. They cheapened the whole thing.

I feel that's what most 9/11 'memorials' are. Just drama queen bull shit affairs. Most of New York doesn't even slow down on this day, but some 20ish girl in kansas sobs "I just felt so powerless" and a group of fucktards nods in sympathy with her.

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YES, EXACTLY!!! Especially this part..."he kids who weren't even friends with the student were the ones who had to miss days of school, talk to the school counselor everyday, and basically just be lavished with attention. They totally aped a tragedy and played drama queen with it. They cheapened the whole thing." Seriously!

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about...motherfuckers who weren't even involved want to play fucking drama queen and all I ever did was call bullshit on it and people looked at me like I said, oh I dont know, I want to kill a bunch of puppies or something! I mean, grow the FUCK UP and realize what they're DOING. They want nothing more than attention. Ugh. People like that make me sick.

Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals at 2008-09-11 20:18:35 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

I wonder how amenable the American government would be to having a minutes silence for the 3000 that died in 9/11 then 66 minutes silence for the 220,000 people that died in the cowardly attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

Submitted by apollo88 at 2008-09-11 20:11:56 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

shit.

dude.

that was meant to be a +2.

SOZ!

Honest 'guv.



Submitted by apollo88 at 2008-09-11 19:49:37 EDT (#)
Rating: -2

<throws knickers at mark>



Submitted by EmissionImpossible at 2008-09-11 17:05:15 EDT (#)
Rating: 2


Never forget where you've come here from.Never pretend that its all real.Someday soon this will be someone else's dream

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-11 17:03:48 EDT (#)
Rating: -2

So you are actually admitting that you use 9/11 and your feigned grief over your dead friends to garner attention?

wow.

I don't think anybody has ever proved my point so thoroughly.

Submitted by icarus1987 at 2008-09-11 17:02:17 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Amen to sanity. Want to know what's killed the economy? Fear and fucking paranoia. A small cell of religious nutters crash some planes and all of a sudden the population's wearing gas masks and duct-taping saran wrap to their windows.

Submitted by TigerLilly at 2008-09-11 16:52:42 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

See what I can do.....


You people fall for it every time.

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-11 16:51:42 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2008-09-11 16:33:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:42:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Well said. People did (and keep doing) this shit with the Columbine and Tech tragedies also. Gets quite old after a while, but no amount of logic will convince them to loosen their weirdo fanatical grip on it.

I once tried to tell a girl in my dorm that just because someone survived Columbine that doesn't make her a hero, nor does it give her any rights to speak about it. Shit...the girl who talked about it wasn't even at the school that day! But the fact that she knew of the people that died (and probably some of them were close friends), she got the fucking royal treatment and everyone at my school idolized her, which made me just want to vomit in her face. How fucking ridiculous! It is fucking OVER, people!
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the first college i went to was in fort collins, i knew a kid who was there that day and saw shit and lost friends. he definitely did not get that treatment. didn't get any at all really. maybe cuz it was in colorado.

i dunno, i'm in fairfield county ct now. we are the commuter village for nyc. i didn't see anything anywhere in the towns around me all the way down to stamford yesterday. didn't hear anything on the radio this morning on two new york stations. didn't see anything today anywhere. maybe the close to home thing counts for how it's handled?

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There is something to be said about that. When I was a child, one of my classmates was strangled to death. Of course, we had the normal mourning period and we built the student a summer garden as a class project. The weird thing is; the students' close friends seemed to absorb the loss, mourn and then move on, while the kids who weren't even friends with the student were the ones who had to miss days of school, talk to the school counselor everyday, and basically just be lavished with attention. They totally aped a tragedy and played drama queen with it. They cheapened the whole thing.

I feel that's what most 9/11 'memorials' are. Just drama queen bull shit affairs. Most of New York doesn't even slow down on this day, but some 20ish girl in kansas sobs "I just felt so powerless" and a group of fucktards nods in sympathy with her.

Submitted by inion_de_trua at 2008-09-11 16:33:58 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:42:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Well said. People did (and keep doing) this shit with the Columbine and Tech tragedies also. Gets quite old after a while, but no amount of logic will convince them to loosen their weirdo fanatical grip on it.

I once tried to tell a girl in my dorm that just because someone survived Columbine that doesn't make her a hero, nor does it give her any rights to speak about it. Shit...the girl who talked about it wasn't even at the school that day! But the fact that she knew of the people that died (and probably some of them were close friends), she got the fucking royal treatment and everyone at my school idolized her, which made me just want to vomit in her face. How fucking ridiculous! It is fucking OVER, people!
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the first college i went to was in fort collins, i knew a kid who was there that day and saw shit and lost friends. he definitely did not get that treatment. didn't get any at all really. maybe cuz it was in colorado.

i dunno, i'm in fairfield county ct now. we are the commuter village for nyc. i didn't see anything anywhere in the towns around me all the way down to stamford yesterday. didn't hear anything on the radio this morning on two new york stations. didn't see anything today anywhere. maybe the close to home thing counts for how it's handled?

Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe at 2008-09-11 16:32:05 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by inion_de_trua at 2008-09-11 16:28:17 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

you are unfortunately assuming that most of the families who lost someone wouldn't get pissed off if we did stop remembering.

i agree with the sentiment though.

Submitted by Fey at 2008-09-11 16:23:24 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

I like you.

Submitted by Ltap at 2008-09-11 16:18:46 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

No comment needed.

Submitted by orphelia at 2008-09-11 16:06:03 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

You are missing Crimewatch.

Submitted by haikumikoo at 2008-09-11 15:54:31 EDT (#)
Rating: 1

Meh, this could use more rage if you ask me.

Submitted by Adamdidit2u at 2008-09-11 15:47:45 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

THANKS FOR SAYING HOW I FEEL

Submitted by Squirrelly_Girl at 2008-09-11 15:16:26 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2008-09-11 15:07:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

Submitted by Squirrelly_Girl (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:57:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

You = God.

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Squirrelly, you already promised yourself to me this morning. You need to quit whoring yourself out. I won't tolerate it. I'll punch you in the nose.

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Yes Master.

:::sniffle:::

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 15:08:49 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

It's OK, Garrik....I'm a Libra by nature, a pacifist through and through. I loathe confrontation, yet I'm a glutton for punishment; hence, my affinity for ubersite, and the sick fucks who dwell therein.

I'm right there with you, Ginger. ;) And there's nothing wrong with red hair.

Submitted by Pentameter at 2008-09-11 15:08:02 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

I don't remember seeing anything where I was asked to mourn with the mourners. No one here is really talking about it all that much, and I'm basically in the middle of the triangle where the incidents took place.

Maybe there's something wrong with the people branding you, not the mourners themselves.

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-11 15:07:36 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Squirrelly_Girl (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:57:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

You = God.

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Squirrelly, you already promised yourself to me this morning. You need to quit whoring yourself out. I won't tolerate it. I'll punch you in the nose.

Submitted by Siren at 2008-09-11 15:00:25 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Who the fuck is Garrik and why is he such a tampon?

I'll say it again. 9/11 is like Christmas. Any normal person would see the humor in that statement.

Submitted by Garrik at 2008-09-11 15:00:12 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Because I was teased a lot as a kid due to my flaming red hair and now, having reached adulthood, I use Ubersite to lash out at complete strangers because it satiates my need for control over the bullies who destroyed my self-confidence during such a young, impressionable stage in my development.




Clear enough?

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-11 15:00:01 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:44:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

While I definitely agree that the government uses 9/11 for its own devious devices, the sputtering, ugly way you wrote this really turned me off. I feel like if I saw you saying these words, I'd feel embarrassed for you.

These memorials aren't for the dead, they're for the living. If anything, the media should be blamed for the over the top, ultra dramatic coverage of all these events. Besides, who are we to say how someone should mourn?

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Well yes, but who are the mourners to say that I should be mourning with them??

And yes it may be spluttering and ugly and this in part due to me being at work and having to type it ver surrupttitously... but mainly it's because I'm so fucking sick and tired of people buying into this shit and then branding me as heartless because I don't.

Submitted by redskieslookfake at 2008-09-11 14:59:37 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Probably fair, but a tad indelicate.

Submitted by Squirrelly_Girl at 2008-09-11 14:57:42 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

You = God.

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 14:53:38 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Why so serious, Garrik?

Submitted by Garrik at 2008-09-11 14:49:57 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

You better watch your mouth you stupid little cunt.



Bored out, ignorant sluts with absolutely no redeemable value as human beings don't score many 'points' in my world; I don't care if you ARE 'blonde and cute' you decrepit bitch.

Submitted by DeathJester at 2008-09-11 14:49:24 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Every time there is a news item about 9/11, 7/7, or any other "terrorist attack" Democracy dies a little more, some civil liberties we have had since humans just started to have rights, and the terrorists win for another day.

Forget 9/11, continue your normal lives, and vote for a political leader who doesn't want to turn your respective country's into a prison state.

THAT is how you beat terrorism.

Submitted by sandmantate at 2008-09-11 14:48:17 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

I approve.

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 14:48:13 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Ha!

It would probably help if I actually GAVE it points.

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 14:45:32 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Tell me how to live my life, Garrik.

POINTS!!






BITCH.

Submitted by Garrik at 2008-09-11 14:44:56 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:42:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Points.


__________________


FUCKING STOP WITH THE 'POINTS' ALREADY.

Submitted by Pentameter at 2008-09-11 14:44:45 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

While I definitely agree that the government uses 9/11 for its own devious devices, the sputtering, ugly way you wrote this really turned me off. I feel like if I saw you saying these words, I'd feel embarrassed for you.

These memorials aren't for the dead, they're for the living. If anything, the media should be blamed for the over the top, ultra dramatic coverage of all these events. Besides, who are we to say how someone should mourn?

Submitted by Sage at 2008-09-11 14:42:38 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Well said. People did (and keep doing) this shit with the Columbine and Tech tragedies also. Gets quite old after a while, but no amount of logic will convince them to loosen their weirdo fanatical grip on it.

I once tried to tell a girl in my dorm that just because someone survived Columbine that doesn't make her a hero, nor does it give her any rights to speak about it. Shit...the girl who talked about it wasn't even at the school that day! But the fact that she knew of the people that died (and probably some of them were close friends), she got the fucking royal treatment and everyone at my school idolized her, which made me just want to vomit in her face. How fucking ridiculous! It is fucking OVER, people!

Yes, it's sad that people died, and yes it was selfish of the people who killed these innocent people to do so. But blame it on their fucked up worldview, mourn, grieve, and get the fuck on with it.

We as a nation will likely never actually FORGET, but that doesn't mean we have to dredge in the memories of the tragedy every single year. Shit happens, and it's a fucked up world we live in. This is only NOW the greatest US tragedy to have ever taken place. Something WILL top this eventually.



Points.

Submitted by Garrik at 2008-09-11 14:41:30 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

3000+ people died that day, law of probability state that some of them were fucking wankers




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I like the cut of your jib, sir.

Submitted by AJ at 2008-09-11 14:41:26 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

And then the rest of it.

I love you.

Submitted by skrapmetal at 2008-09-11 14:40:11 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

It happened and it was important. It changed things. Letting go of the emotion of it is one thing and a good one. Simply forgetting the incident and it's motivation is another.

Submitted by Garrik at 2008-09-11 14:39:50 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Siren (user info) at 2008-09-11 14:37:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1

9/11/01 is like Christmas











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What the fuck?

Submitted by AJ at 2008-09-11 14:38:56 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

For the title and the first two lines.

Submitted by X54 at 2008-09-11 14:38:18 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

9/11 is used to justify the "war on terror" in the same way the Zionists use the holocaust to justify their policies in the Middle East.

What really galls me is that the government handed out lots of money to the survivors of the 9/11 victims, basically buying them off so they wouldn't sue the airlines. What kind of shit is that?

Submitted by Siren at 2008-09-11 14:37:34 EDT (#)
Rating: 1

I'm kind of half with you, half not.

This "Never Forget" motto is so retarded. 9/11/01 is like Christmas, only bad. Nobody is going to forget that shit.

Though, I don't think TL was rubbing anything anywhere. If she were, the post would've maybe included only the pics of her friends along with names, bios, and some cheesy verse.

Submitted by Judgement at 2008-09-11 14:31:42 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-11 14:28:02 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

I would also like to point out that this isn't aimed at anybody in paticular but if you feel that it is, then fine, you're probably a retard.

Submitted by Spam at 2008-09-11 14:26:23 EDT (#)
Rating: 0

I wish I didn't have to type this while at work because this is rushed out and doesn't covere NEARLY everything that sickens me about the way 9/11 is used by Governments and individuals alike to galvanise people into some kind of guilty groupthink.


Just squeeze your rage into a bitter little ball and release it at an
appropriate time. Like that day I hit that referee with a whiskey
bottle. 'Member that?

-- Homer Simpson
Whacking Day