Ohio State vs. Michigan: It's Time to Play the Game (3450 hits)
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Submitted by Thomas R. Sorrell - sorrelltr.at.hotmail.com (View user info) at 2006-11-17 08:59:10 EST
It's that time of year again! One year ago to this day, I posted this picture post: http://www.ubersite.com/m/79387. Today, simple text and a picture of the best player and coach in the country will do the job. Enjoy.
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As a young boy growing up in a small town just south of Dayton, Ohio, the first football game I ever watched was Ohio State versus Texas A&M in the 1987 Cotton Bowl (the Buckeyes won 28-12). I was six years old at the time and knew very little about football. What I did know was that I shared a first name with the OSU punter and future quarterback (Tom Tupa), their star receiver (Chris Carter) was from the town next to mine, and there was something about the combination of scarlet jerseys and metallic sliver (gray) helmets that made me sit and stare at the screen in wonder. I've been hooked ever since.
I am ridiculously superstitious when it comes to the Buckeyes. Last season, my wife moved my Woody Hayes bobble head a quarter of an inch while she was dusting the bookcase and the Buckeyes lost to Texas. A few weeks later, a friend had the audacity to pick up the mini-helmet that rests proudly on my mantle from August to January and the Buckeyes lost to Penn State.
This season, I have informed my wife that if she touches anything with the words Ohio, State, or Buckeyes written on it, I will pack up my belongings and live in the car. Not only that, but I have performed the exact same routine every Saturday just to keep things on the level. That routine is as follows:
I wake up and TiVo ESPN's College Gameday, then make a pot of coffee and take a shower while it's brewing. When I get out of the shower, I put on my pajama pants and 2002 Fiesta Bowl Champions t-shirt, pour the coffee into my 32-ounce Ohio State mug (the one with Brutus on one side & Block O on the other), then sit down on my couch and watch Gameday. Later on in the day (before the game begins), I put on an old pair of jeans along with my black OSU Football t-shirt and scarlet Damon Moore jersey -- none of which have been washed since August -- and sit down to watch some football. Two weeks ago I got home after the kickoff, which means I failed to complete my routine, and Ohio State only won by seven. Um, sorry about that.
Anyway, for the last eight weeks we've had to listen to the media hyping up a possible one versus two match up, but very few people (including me) actually believed it would happen. It would too good to be true. Someone would lose during the season...they had to. After all, in the history of The Game, the two programs had finished the season unbeaten and untied only two times: once in 1970 and again in 1973, and they had never finished the season No. 1 vs. No. 2 in every major poll...until now. At 3:30 PM this Saturday, the game I've waited my entire life for is actually going to take place. It's like Red said at the end of The Shawshank Redemption, "I find I'm so excited I can barely sit still or keep a thought in my head."
Yet ten years ago it wouldn't have been like this. Instead of excited, I would have been scared to death. All my fingernails would have been chewed off and I would have done everything short of creating a voodoo doll of Mike Hart and Chad Henne and jabbing them in the chest with railroad spikes. You see, back then the Buckeyes, led by coach John Cooper, simply could not find a way to beat Michigan when it really mattered. In five years, OSU went into the final game of the season ranked in the top five four times.
In 1993, OSU went into Michigan with a 9-0-1 record, but were embarrassed in Ann Arbor by a final score of 28-0. I remember this game taking approximately seven hours from start to finish.
In 1995, Tim Biakabutuka ran for 313 yards against the 10-0 Buckeyes en route to a 31-28 victory. I'm still not convinced this game even took place. Tim Biakabutuka? 313 yards? No way. Not possible.
In 1996, the 10-0 Bucks took a 9-0 lead going into halftime, but on the second play of the third quarter, cornerback Shawn Springs slipped and fell allowing Tai Streets to turn a short catch into a 69 yard touchdown reception -- the lone six pointer in the Wolverines' 13-9 victory. I don't remember anything that happened after this play because I blacked out and hit my head on a table which sent me into a deep coma. When I woke up the Buckeyes were playing Arizona State in the Rose Bowl.
In 1997, the 9-1, and fourth-ranked Buckeyes went into Michigan and fell behind 20-0, before eventually losing 20-14 thanks in large part to the play of (Ohio native) Charles Woodson. Woodson, who went on to win the Heisman Trophy, scored on a punt return and then donned the Heisman pose in the back of the end zone as I repeatedly banged my head against the concrete wall of my dorm room.
I can't even begin to describe how awful it was to watch those games. Just thinking about them now puts me in a foul mood. It actually got to the point where I thought of The Game like a visit to the dentist -- something that was not fun and would most likely cause me pain before it was over, but also something that had to be done.
All that nonsense flew right out the window when a man in a sweater vest arrived in Columbus. Aside from reestablishing the rivalry as the most important contest of the of the year (Cooper had tried to downplay it as "just another game"), Jim Tressel also injected some much-needed confidence to the program and more importantly, the fans, by going into Ann Arbor and handing the Wolverines a defeat in his first year as head coach. This victory ensured that the OSU fans would no longer sit and wait for the other shoe to drop when watching The Game. We now had a coach who knew what he was doing and could devise the right gameplan to defeat our hated rivals...and best of all, every last one of us knew it.
It all culminated during the championship run of 2002. Had Cooper been the coach, it's probable the Buckeyes would have found a way to lose the game. However, with Coach Tressel at the helm, the Bucks came from behind to take the lead, then managed to hold off the determined Wolverines for a 14-9 victory and a spot in the national title game.
It's funny, through all the heartbreaking losses in the '90s (and there were several), I never once shed a tear when Ohio State lost. But when Will Allen intercepted John Navarre's pass in the end zone with no time left back in '02, I cried tears of joy and did not stop for 10 minutes. That game was not simply a victory over the maize and blue, it was an exorcism of all the demons from the '90s.
Since that fateful November day, the Ohio State Michigan game no longer looms like a mountain, but merely a small hill the Buckeyes must climb to reach the pinnacle of college football. More importantly, it's become fun again.
A few nights ago my wife and I were driving home from running a few errands and out of nowhere I broke into a huge grin. Think the Grinch, from How the Grinch Stole Christmas -- the cartoon, not the movie, when he comes up with an idea on how to stop Christmas from coming. When my wife asked me why I was smiling like a lottery winner, I replied, "I'm just thinking about the game on Saturday."
And oh what a game it will be.
User Reviews
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2007-01-22 16:28:04 EST (#)
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Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2007-01-22 15:54:44 (#)
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I would like to congratulate the Big 10 for its lucky wins in the Outback and Capital One bowls. Arkansas is overrated, and Tenessee is just having a bad year.
I also want to congratulate OSU for playing their hardest. Maybe next year when they go back to their schedule of teams like Northern Illinois, they'll be happy again at their overly inflated stats.
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Florida's schedule included such powerhouses as Western Carolina, Central Florida, and Southern Miss.
Here's what happened in the UF/Ohio State game, just for the record:
Thanks to the loss of their #1 receiver and primary deep threat, OSU's offense could not move the ball right off the bat. Losing Teddy completely threw off the game plan and it took them a while to figure out what to do (Tressel's faul). Because the offense could do nothing, the defense was on the field too much and couldn't adjust to UF's offense. This caused OSU to fall behind quickly. They managed to scrape together a nice drive to bring the score to 21-14, but after that bad playcalling on offense and no defensive execution resulted in UF getting a nice advantage and going into halftime up big.
The combination of Teddy being out and being behind by 20 points turned Ohio State from a dynamic offense into a one-dimensional mess of confusion.
Because they knew OSU was passing, Florida's defensive ends were able to speed rush around the ends every play, they spied Troy with their fastest LB (basically a hook/curl zone that also serves to take away slant/crossing routes), they played double-safeties over the top (cover 2) and tight man-to-man coverage underneath.
They outcoached and outplayed OSU, and that's all there is to it.
But really, so what? It bothered me for about an hour, then I went to sleep.
Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2007-01-22 15:54:44 EST (#)
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I would like to congratulate the Big 10 for its lucky wins in the Outback and Capital One bowls. Arkansas is overrated, and Tenessee is just having a bad year.
I also want to congratulate OSU for playing their hardest. Maybe next year when they go back to their schedule of teams like Northern Illinois, they'll be happy again at their overly inflated stats.
In all seriousness, though, most of the ESPN analysts were wrong in their predictions for all 3 Big10/SEC bowl games.
Submitted by Wisher (user info) at 2007-01-09 02:51:38 EST (#)
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The South rules!
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2007-01-09 02:31:13 EST (#)
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How embarrassing this has been for serious Ohio sports fans like myself.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2007-01-09 02:13:00 EST (#)
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Dude, OSU got fucking smoked.
This is the exact opposite of what I had expected. Wow.
Way to represent.
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2007-01-09 01:23:44 EST (#)
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Awful game. Worst I've ever seen OSU play. Ever.
Submitted by Dexter-Brown (user info) at 2007-01-08 23:15:31 EST (#)
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34-14? Go 4th quarter miracle!
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2007-01-08 22:40:27 EST (#)
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fucking osu.....
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-01-08 22:21:14 EST (#)
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The Big Ten lays yet ANOTHER fucking egg.
Submitted by knucklesnelson (user info) at 2007-01-08 22:17:42 EST (#)
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Damn man i do say, your buckeyes are choking worse than Jgreening on a bucket of KFC.
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2007-01-08 16:22:06 EST (#)
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I was born ready, Spook. Just about 4 hours to kickoff.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2007-01-08 12:36:09 EST (#)
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I hope you're ready motherfucker.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2006-11-22 23:39:42 EST (#)
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Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-11-22 05:51:05 (#)
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The only football team I care about at all is USC. The only time I can tolerate watching football is when they play.
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Fuck USC. I'm not surprised a hippy/valley girl like you would support those douches.
Submitted by knucklesnelson (user info) at 2006-11-22 21:45:14 EST (#)
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meh
Submitted by homer42 (user info) at 2006-11-22 17:33:52 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-22 15:17:38 EST (#)
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Assholy- you're out of your liva-snappin' mind.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-22 11:39:42 EST (#)
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...this year.
It just happens that this year the top three teams in the Big Ten are dominant. The only teams to beat them have been one another. You can't penalize the rest of the conference for displaying parity between the bottom 8 (you keep saying 7; there are 11 teams) while you trumpet the SEC for parity among them all. The worst Big Ten teams could easily destroy the worst SEC teams.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-22 08:13:51 EST (#)
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Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2006-11-21 06:57:37 (#)
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I'm going to have to support Schongly's claim, actually. Analysts don't say the SEC is the best conference; they say it's the toughest conference. The difference would be that most of the teams in the SEC are worth their salt relative to the rest of the teams of the country. In other words, the other conferences may have 1 or 2 of the BEST teams, but the SEC has about 7-8 of the ALMOST BEST or VERY GOOD teams. This would produce a record disparity, as the other top teams around the country have much easier schedules.
To illustrate this, we can look at this year's interconference play between the SEC and the Pac-10. The only good PAC-10 team, USC, destroyed the SEC's #2 team. At the same time, Pac-10's #2 team California was soundly defeated by the SEC's #5 team. The SEC team won every other matchup vs Pac-10 this year. (i.e. Auburn over Washington State, LSU over Arizona) This proves the point very well. USC deserves its high ranking over SEC teams, but people should keep in mind that the rest of the conference consists of a bunch of pushovers with respect to the SEC. The same logic applies to the Big Ten.
For example... it may be arguable if there's any SEC teams that could beat the top 3 Big Ten teams. But it's pretty agreeable that almost the entire SEC could cream the other 7 teams of the Big Ten.
In conclusion...the SEC is the "toughest" conference because everyone is bound to lose at least once, due to the high number of fairly good teams.
+ 2 on your next two posts for taking the time...whoever the fuck you are.
I didn't say that the SEC had "the best teams" but yes, it IS the toughest conference to play in, which is why even the quality teams come out of there with one, and sometimes TWO losses. Even the Vandy's of the conference can rise up and beat a Top 10 SEC team from time to time..
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-11-22 05:51:05 EST (#)
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The only football team I care about at all is USC. The only time I can tolerate watching football is when they play.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2006-11-22 02:06:32 EST (#)
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Razorbacks represent boi! Don't underestimate the Hogs. We're on fire. I know we won't win it all but don't be surprised to see us go farther than you'd think we would(who'd have thunk we'd even get this far). We've been showing we can bring the noise during the big games. And we got more than Darren McFadden(our personal football Jesus). We also got Marcus Monk(that giant WILL catch that damn ball if you even put it near him), Felix Jones(that fucker can run), and our QB while not that impressive is however fairly consistent. Our defensive has also been improving throughout the season and has been showing they can stand up to good teams. The only problem we have is fucking Head Coach Houston Nut(Damn that idiotic man), and that we happen to be fucking Arkansas and God enjoys bringing us this far so he can rip it all away.
MCFADDEN FOR HEISMAN WOOT! GO HOGS!
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2006-11-21 11:21:33 EST (#)
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IMO, the only team in the SEC that would give Ohio State a challenge is LSU because they match up well with the Bucks.
Also, watch for LSU's defensive coordinator (Bo Pelini) to jump ship to Michigan State in the upcoming months/weeks.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-21 08:24:47 EST (#)
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Besides, the top ranked team in the SEC is the Gators. The Gators make the SEC look "tough" because they drop punts, fumble the ball, and manage the clock like fools, allowing for a close game that would otherwise be a blowout. Shitty close sloppy football games don't indicate a "tough" conference. They indicate a bunch of moronic players with shitty mistakes.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-21 08:18:53 EST (#)
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If you don't think Ohio State or Michigan can't beat any team in the SEC, you're a fool.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-21 08:18:06 EST (#)
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Acarnis just spat out a bunch of irrelevant bullshit. Except for the PAC-10: they blow. Just because the SEC was rated higher does not make it the "most difficult conference". I don't think the SEC has played anyone of value outside of their Conference, minus USC, whatsoever. This is like saying the NL West is the best division because everyone is .500.
Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2006-11-21 06:57:37 EST (#)
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I'm going to have to support Schongly's claim, actually. Analysts don't say the SEC is the best conference; they say it's the toughest conference. The difference would be that most of the teams in the SEC are worth their salt relative to the rest of the teams of the country. In other words, the other conferences may have 1 or 2 of the BEST teams, but the SEC has about 7-8 of the ALMOST BEST or VERY GOOD teams. This would produce a record disparity, as the other top teams around the country have much easier schedules.
To illustrate this, we can look at this year's interconference play between the SEC and the Pac-10. The only good PAC-10 team, USC, destroyed the SEC's #2 team. At the same time, Pac-10's #2 team California was soundly defeated by the SEC's #5 team. The SEC team won every other matchup vs Pac-10 this year. (i.e. Auburn over Washington State, LSU over Arizona) This proves the point very well. USC deserves its high ranking over SEC teams, but people should keep in mind that the rest of the conference consists of a bunch of pushovers with respect to the SEC. The same logic applies to the Big Ten.
For example... it may be arguable if there's any SEC teams that could beat the top 3 Big Ten teams. But it's pretty agreeable that almost the entire SEC could cream the other 7 teams of the Big Ten.
In conclusion...the SEC is the "toughest" conference because everyone is bound to lose at least once, due to the high number of fairly good teams.
Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2006-11-21 06:33:51 EST (#)
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Looking at this link, http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls05/news/story?page=capitalone_history
It seems that the SEC and Big Ten teams starting playing each other 1993 in this Capital One Bowl.
So I will expand myself and say the all-time Capital One record is 8-5, SEC. This favors Schongly's claim that the Big Ten only produces 1-2 quality teams each year, the rest being crappy.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-21 06:31:06 EST (#)
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Auburn - Good defense. Lost to Arkanssass & Georgia.
Florida - Chris Leak & a bunch of spooks. Kicker makes 1 out of every 5 FGs.
Tennessee - Lost to Arkansasss & the Gators.
Arkansas - Do they have anything but a RB? USC destroyed them.
LSU - Overratted. Lost to Gators.
South Carolina - Stever Spurrier? Almost beat the overrated Gators.
Georgia - They still have a team? Lost to WVU in a bowl game last year.
SEC is not the best conference, just the most overrated. If OSU, Michigan, & Wisconsin didn't pound the shit out of the rest of the teams, they'd all be overrated to.
Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2006-11-21 06:28:33 EST (#)
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In honor of this debate, I'm going to watch the Capital One Bowl in its entirety, which has the No.2 of the SEC and Big Ten face it off.
The record has been 6-4 SEC for the past 10 years.
My honest prediction is that the SEC will win it this year.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-21 02:33:37 EST (#)
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Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:56:18 (#)
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Sorry dickfaces, Big 12 is where its at.
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Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-21 02:32:49 EST (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:37:19 (#)
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Now, research the hoops tournament the same number of years...I'm telling you...1-7 or some such ridiculous number.
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Two years ago, There were almost 3 Big Ten teams and Bobby Knight's Tech team in the final four. In the Elite Eight, UNC beat Wisconsin. In the Final Four, UNC beat MSU. In the championship game, UNC beat Illinois.
Illinois 5-1
MSU 4-1
Wisconsin 3-1
By my calculations, no SEC team made it to the Sweet Sixteen, except for Kentucky, who was beaten by Michigan State in the Elite Eight. Alabama lost to 12-seeded UW-Milwaukee in the first round. UWM went on to beat BC and was eventually beaten by Illinois. Florida lost to Nova in the second round after barely edging THE University of Ohio in round one. I'm surprised to find that these were the only teams from the conference that even made it to the tournament.
The SEC isn't superior in either sport. Face it.
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:56:18 EST (#)
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Sorry dickfaces, Big 12 is where its at.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:37:19 EST (#)
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Now, research the hoops tournament the same number of years...I'm telling you...1-7 or some such ridiculous number.
I don't think you went back far enough on the Bowl Games...I've lived in SC since 99 so you at least have to go back to 2000.
Nice job, though. +2 on your next post from Shlongy, no matter how mindless it is.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:25:50 EST (#)
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Last year the Big Ten was 3-4, with the top 3 teams winning. The SEC was 4-2, with the SEC number two team in Auburn losing to the Big Ten number 3 team Wisconsin and the SEC 3 team Florida beating Big Ten 4 Iowa. The top 2 SEC teams both lost.
Year prior Big ten was 3-3, going 2-1 in games against the SEC. The SEC was 4-2.
Year before that Big Ten went 3-5 in Bowl Games, going 1-2 agains the SEC. the SEC was 3-2 that year.
Before that Big Ten went 5-2 in bowl games and 2-1 against the SEC. SEC was 3-4 that year.
And I can't be arsed to look any further.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:04:50 EST (#)
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Nice research, darko.
Now, see if you can backtrack Bowl Games for the last 5,6 years or so...like I said, one of those years, the Big Ten won like ONE game out of the 7 or 8 they were in- may have been a random Northwestern victory, while the rest of the Big Ten got their asses handed to them.
I bet nitty would remember that year.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-20 16:00:00 EST (#)
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Michigan is 1-2 in BCS games, Ohio state is 4-0 in BCS games, Wisconsin is 2-0 in BCS games. The Rest of the Big Ten is 1-3 with 4 different teams. The top 3 Big Ten teams are 7-2 against "the best" teams in the nation. Florida is 2-1 amd Lsu is 2-0. Vols are 1-1, and georgia is 1-1, Auburn is 1-0, Alabama is 0-1. The SEC's top 3 teams are 5-2.
The Big Ten has had 7 teams make BCS games, The SEC has had 6. Overall Big Ten Record is 8-5, Sec is 7-4. SEC teams have been invited 11 times, Big Ten teams have been invited 13, meaning 3 times has an SEC team gained an at large bid, while 5 of the 8 times a Big Ten Team has.
BCS games where Big Ten faced SEC
Michigan 35-Alabama 34 in 1999
LSU 47-Illinois 34 in 2001
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 15:40:55 EST (#)
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I meant to EXCLUDE Mich and OSU from the 9 out of 10 times thing, on the top of my previous review.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 15:39:41 EST (#)
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The following teams could beat EVERYONE in the Big Ten 9 out of 10 times (Michigan and THE Ohio State University (which is also extremely gay), and this includes Wisconsin:
Auburn
Florida
Tennessee
Arkansas
LSU
South Carolina
Georgia
The following teams could beat the entire Big Ten 5 out of 10 times (With the same two exceptions and maybe, only 3 out of 10 times vs. Wisconsin):
Vanderbilt
Alabama
The SEC is pretty fucking strong from top to bottom...The Big Ten is strong at the top and that's IT.
And I don't even LIKE SEC football. As a gambler and sports prognosticator, it's just my expert observation.
A couple of years ago, and I can't remember if it was the Hoops tournament/March Madness or the Football Bowl Games but I tracked the Big Ten and they went like 2-8.
For all I know, it may have been BOTH the hoops and the football.
FUCK the Big Ten. Fuck Woody Hayes, and fuck Brutus, too, spook, you ugly cocksucker.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-20 15:23:44 EST (#)
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Wisconsin will end the season at number 5 or 6 in the BCS rankings. There will only be 1 SEC team in the top 6, while there will be 3 big ten teams.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-20 15:13:01 EST (#)
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On that same note, the only two teams that deserve national championship berths are Michigan and OSU. Why should Michigan be knocked out of contention? A late, close loss to the #1 team? Fuck that.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-20 15:08:30 EST (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 11:04:15 (#)
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Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-18 15:47:06 (#)
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Shlongy - I dont think there's a single team from the SEC who can beat Wisconsin 3 times out of 10.
You serious??? Buahauahauahauahauahauahauahahaa thanks for the Monday morning laugh.
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The funny thing is that you HAVE been watching SEC football since before I was born. I would bet on that. The thing you need to consider is that they aren't playing these games 30 years ago. They're playing today, and the three of the four best teams in the country are from the Big Ten. Only Florida creeps in at number three, and BARELY. Arkansas? Gimme a fucking break. You may not watch the Big Ten but I watch everything, and I'm good at this. Arkansas loses to OSU and Michigan 10 times out of ten and Wisconsin 8 times out of ten. Auburn will lose their bowl game against Wisconsin AGAIN. PSU would beat any team but Florida or Arkansas the majority of the the same is true for Iowa when Drew Tate is healthy. Even the Goofs and Illinois are better than most of the SEC.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-20 12:08:19 EST (#)
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Shlongy, at least your sticking to what your good at: pretending like you know what the fuck is going on and arguing like a child on the internet. Maybe one day you'll interact with real people.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-20 12:06:31 EST (#)
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Yeah, because the Gators and Arkansas look real fucking tough.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 11:04:15 EST (#)
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Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-18 15:47:06 (#)
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Shlongy - I dont think there's a single team from the SEC who can beat Wisconsin 3 times out of 10.
You serious??? Buahauahauahauahauahauahauahahaa thanks for the Monday morning laugh.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-20 11:02:44 EST (#)
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Spook- Until you learn to spell "hipocrite", shut your punkass mouth.
I watched less than three minutes of the game...But I can bet on anything I want, until I'm told differently...by the law.
Fucking moron.
Submitted by whocares229 (user info) at 2006-11-20 10:34:39 EST (#)
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Hogs all the way!!!! Woo pigs
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-11-20 09:09:26 EST (#)
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Somehow, Penn State crept back into the bcs rankings this weekend.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-20 08:57:48 EST (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-19 11:34:17 (#)
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I was pissed because they couldn't hang on to cover.
That late TD cost Shlongy some cash.
Look at this hipocrite. "I can't watch Big 10 football, blah blah fucking blah."
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-20 08:56:53 EST (#)
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Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-18 20:07:15 (#)
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Rematch is in order unless Rutgers wins out
You had your shot. Go home, Michigan.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2006-11-20 01:13:28 EST (#)
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Bob predicts that the BCS will either be OSU and Mich or Flordia/Arkansas
The SEC is so damn good that whoever comes out of that with 1 loss needs to be considered.
Notre Dame lost to Mich...therefore they are not worthy.
USC lost to Oregon St...therefore they are not worthy.
No 1 lost team in the Big East is worthy.
Therefore only Mich or Flordia/Arkansas, so long as they both have 1 loss.
I bet on a rematch.
Submitted by NerfHerder (user info) at 2006-11-20 00:29:44 EST (#)
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+2+2+2wooooooo
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-19 11:34:17 EST (#)
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I was pissed because they couldn't hang on to cover.
That late TD cost Shlongy some cash.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-11-18 20:13:05 EST (#)
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GO BUCKS!
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I HAVE HIVES FROM THE SHEER EXCITEMENT!
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-18 20:07:15 EST (#)
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Rematch is in order unless Rutgers wins out
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2006-11-18 19:45:05 EST (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-18 19:42:14 (#)
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Christ, that game was embarrassing.
Nice defenses the "rugged" Big ten puts out there.
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LMAO
And if the game would have been a 17-14 game, Shlongy would have complained about how bad the offenses were. It was a no win.
Anyway, that said:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-18 19:42:14 EST (#)
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Christ, that game was embarrassing.
Nice defenses the "rugged" Big ten puts out there.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2006-11-18 16:51:57 EST (#)
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Fuck Troy Smith. Darren McFadden for Heisman! GO HOGS!
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-18 15:47:06 EST (#)
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Tom - I didnt say he was not a good coach. I said that you cant say he's the best coach in the country. I said that he has the easiest job BY FAR of any coach in the country. It's not that he keeps the talent in the state, it's that he doesn't even need to recruit outside the state to field the best team in the country. Any coach can keep the talent in the state. Every coach does. The only guy in the Big Ten who didn't was Ron Turner, who had the strangest recruiting philosophy I've ever seen. I guess Glen Mason doesn't do a good job of it either, but it's because he seems not to offer to recruits he doesn't think he can get. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Shlongy - I dont think there's a single team from the SEC who can beat Wisconsin 3 times out of 10.
The Big Ten this year is more top heavy than usual. There are only three really good teams, and that's not common. Watch the Capitol One bowl this year and you'll see what the Big Ten is all about. Wisconsin beat up on Auburn last year and will again this year. Speed kills, but not when it's lying on a stretcher.
Submitted by Beer_bong (user info) at 2006-11-18 12:51:25 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm seriously frightened. Local ABC affiliate might not show Buckeyes-Michigan to show Washington-Washington State. ESPN better have that fucking game on.
GO BUCKEYES WOO!
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2006-11-18 11:50:08 EST (#)
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Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-17 19:10:06 (#)
Ranking: 2
COMMITTED/NOT YET SIGNED Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR Video Hometown
Evan Blankenship OL 6-3 310 5.1 5.7 Monaca, PA
Eugene Clifford DB 6-2 190 4.45 6.0 Cincinnati, OH
Donnie Evege DB 5-11 185 4.4 5.8 Huber Heights, OH
Daniel Herron RB 5-10 190 4.52 5.8 Warren, OH
Nate Oliver DB 6-0 199 4.85 5.9 Lakewood, OH
Brandon Saine RB 6-0 200 4.4 6.0 Piqua, OH
Dane Sanzenbacher WR 5-11 174 4.64 5.6 Toledo, OH
Devon Torrence ATH 6-0 200 4.4 5.8 Canton, OH
Taurian Washington WR 6-0 167 4.5 5.8 Orchard Lake, MI
Evan Blankenship and Sanzenbacher are three stars, all the others are four. Taurian Washington is a good national recruit and you guys outbid a few other schools for him. Beyond that, Tressel hasn't done anything this recruiting cycle (again) beyond sucking talent up out of Ohio.
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Wait a second, he's not a good coach because he keeps the players from one of the most talent rich states in state? News to me. Are the coaches at USC or Florida any less of coaches because they use their resources to their advantage?
Cooper used to spurn the in-state talent and recruit in California or Florida and that's one of the main reasons he always lost to Michigan...those kids didn't understand it. Plus he let players like Charles Woodson leave the state. What Tressel's done is keep the talent in-state, well...in state.
Your argument just doesn't hold water.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 20:05:54 EST (#)
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Assholy- There's 10 teams in the SEC who could beat EVERY team in the Big Ten except two of them (the two boring ass teams that are playing each other this weekend - I'm including shitass Wisconsin in my statistics), 9 out 10 games on a neutral field.
I've watched more college football than you've watched PowerRanger cartoons over the past 35 years.
The Big East is GLAD Miami left - they're fucking done, those fucking criminals- of course, NOT so glad that BC left.
So shut the fuck up.
Submitted by KindaNews (user info) at 2006-11-17 19:43:14 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-17 19:26:23 EST (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:02:59 (#)
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(Psssssstt...I'm really a Big East fan but I have to pretend I like the SEC so I don't get lynched down here)
A Big East football fan talking shit about the Big Ten? When did this start happening? Big Ten fans have only recently decided Louisville is good enough to consider letting them join the "Notre Dame should be the twlefthtdth team in the conference" talks. On that same note, the best team in the conference was a C-USA team two years ago.
The SEC sucks too. Someday the people who do the preseason ratings will realize this.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-17 19:10:06 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
COMMITTED/NOT YET SIGNED Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR Video Hometown
Evan Blankenship OL 6-3 310 5.1 5.7 Monaca, PA
Eugene Clifford DB 6-2 190 4.45 6.0 Cincinnati, OH
Donnie Evege DB 5-11 185 4.4 5.8 Huber Heights, OH
Daniel Herron RB 5-10 190 4.52 5.8 Warren, OH
Nate Oliver DB 6-0 199 4.85 5.9 Lakewood, OH
Brandon Saine RB 6-0 200 4.4 6.0 Piqua, OH
Dane Sanzenbacher WR 5-11 174 4.64 5.6 Toledo, OH
Devon Torrence ATH 6-0 200 4.4 5.8 Canton, OH
Taurian Washington WR 6-0 167 4.5 5.8 Orchard Lake, MI
Evan Blankenship and Sanzenbacher are three stars, all the others are four. Taurian Washington is a good national recruit and you guys outbid a few other schools for him. Beyond that, Tressel hasn't done anything this recruiting cycle (again) beyond sucking talent up out of Ohio.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-11-17 18:58:08 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
BEST COACH IN THE COUNTRY!?? Based on what?
Tressel has the easiest job in the country. With the exception of LSU and, to a much much lesser extent, Rutgers, there isn't another school in the country with such a high number of Division one recruits without an in-state power rival. The guys the Tressel decides not to DRAFT out of the state of Ohio end up being top recruits for programs like Michigan and Wisconsin. Tressel picks and chooses who he wants to come and play for him from Glenville and Bedford and wherever else, and mixes in a top recruit or three from Florida or Texas, and he has a top 3 recruiting class without doing any work at all.
Tressel has no excuse for losing a game, ever. He's a great coach, but I dont think that you can call him the best just because he wins a bunch. I doubt he'd enjoy the same success if he was the coach at a place like Michigan State or Northwestern or even Iowa. He's a product of the system.
Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2006-11-17 18:15:03 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by beauxjizzle (user info) at 2006-11-17 17:09:13 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
UL Lafayette by -7. LSU by 3. Saints by 10.
That is all.
i did not read so +2 for your troubles
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-11-17 17:02:02 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I have to admit I really didn't bother reading this post.
I'll take Michigan.
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2006-11-17 16:45:49 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Cant spell cocksucker without OSU. Im still mad about the game with Texas so Ill be rooting for Michigan.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-11-17 16:03:37 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2006-11-17 12:14:38 (#)
Ranking: 0
Well shit, Bo Schembechler just died.
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ha ha, you can expect some 'win one for the gipper' talk in the lockerroom, Buckeyes are gonna get crushed
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:42:56 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I thought "stiff" was the point, shlong.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:37:04 EST (#)
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That's a lot of pressure you're putting on Shlongy...I'll have to find a picture of his head that I can have altered into a beautiful woman or a skull & crossbones or something...JUST IN CASE YOU STIFF ME AFTER I HAVE IT DONE!
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:31:27 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Get the tat and we'll talk.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:26:41 EST (#)
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If I thought there was a chance in holy hell that your head would ever get THAT close to Shlongy Jr., I would buy and wear Michigan boxer shorts, get a picture of Bo Schembeckler's face tattooed on my ass and donate to the U of M alumni fund drive. If that's what it took.
In that order.
But I really think, to make this happen, all I would really have to do is introduce myself, buy you a couple of "top shelf" cocktails, and nibble on your earlobe.
You'd be putty in my hands.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:25:58 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I can't wait for this game...
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:11:03 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Honey, the day I put my head in a lap that DOESN'T belong to a Big Ten fan is the day I slit my own wrists.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 15:02:59 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
(Psssssstt...I'm really a Big East fan but I have to pretend I like the SEC so I don't get lynched down here)
I noticed you had no problem with the headrest though.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 14:59:35 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Not after your Big Ten comments you, SEC pussy.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 14:43:55 EST (#)
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Here, here MANIC...just lay your head on Shlongy's lap. I'll comfort you.
I hope you don't mind that I'm not wearing any undertrou...and my fly is down.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 14:35:44 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
BO DIED!!!!!!! I'm gonna go cry now.
Submitted by Coleslaw_Murphy (user info) at 2006-11-17 14:33:54 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
The Buckeye receivers are just too much.
It'll suck for the loser of the game, being that everyone and subsequently the BCS formula, have only short-term memory.
O-H-
Submitted by justagirl27 (user info) at 2006-11-17 14:17:46 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
ouch darko, my feelings are hurt :(
but not really.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-17 13:50:57 EST (#)
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This wins for Bo.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-11-17 13:43:14 EST (#)
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I disagree with both of the people from msu who have posted on here, and not just because they are both bad kissers.
Submitted by ih8u2man (user info) at 2006-11-17 13:00:30 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
THERE IS NO COFFEE IN VANCOUVER PEOPLE!
IT HAS RAINED SO MUCH THE WATER TABLE IS CONTAMINATED!
I REPEAT! I REPEAT!
THERE IS NO COFFE IN VANCOUVER - STARBUCKS, TIMMY'S, ETC ARE CLOSED!
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-11-17 12:35:14 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Schembekler (yeah i spelled it wrong) dieing will give Michigan something to play for. This should be good.
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2006-11-17 12:29:50 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
RIP Bo Schembechler.
FYI, being a NYC resident, I am rooting for every team in the nation except Rutgers to lose at least 1 more game. Buckeyes vs. Scarlet Knights for the championsip????
Well, that'd be nice, but Ohio State is gonna steamroll the rest of this year's relatively weak field. Congrats on another BCS title, fucko.
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2006-11-17 12:14:38 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Well shit, Bo Schembechler just died.
Submitted by justagirl27 (user info) at 2006-11-17 11:21:58 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
hopefully this will shut up everyone who talks shit about the big ten never being a good conference.
being a spartan, i don't like osu, but i hate u of m even more, so lets go bucks!
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 11:20:40 EST (#)
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Spook- correct me if I'm wrong...aren't I having an internet 'conversation" with YOU on this fucking web site too, you stupid motherfucker?
Now go put on your Ohio State sweatpants and dig a fucking hole, bag the fries or do somefuckingthing.
Wearing that sweatshirt is as close as you'll get to any University, asslick.
Hey, are you one of those cool guys who has one of those big, fat inflatable Buckeye mascots on his front lawn and who starts the day by doing funnels or a keg stand?
Fuck off.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:52:21 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:27:06 (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:07:06 (#)
Ranking: 0
Then I actually go out and do something with my Saturdays, and I don't feel quite as bad.
Like write faggy poetry for and about ugly people for an online message board?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:44:23 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
And hey, at least you know about what I do here.
I couldn't name a single thing you've written, or written about.
All I know is that you've posted a camwhore that makes Richard Simmons look as straight as Steve McQueen. In the barbeque restaurant of life, this serving does NOT need an extra helping of queersauce: http://www.ubersite.com/m/84317
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:37:52 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:27:06 (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:07:06 (#)
Ranking: 0
Then I actually go out and do something with my Saturdays, and I don't feel quite as bad.
Like write faggy poetry for and about ugly people for an online message board?
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You see me posting a lot on Saturdays?
I do this while I'm on the clock, hom(o)bre.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:27:06 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:07:06 (#)
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Then I actually go out and do something with my Saturdays, and I don't feel quite as bad.
Like write faggy poetry for and about ugly people for an online message board?
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:25:28 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Shlongy - Maybe when YOU grow up you'll get a real fucking job and decide that living your life on this website is a waste of time.
SEC isn't real football. A whole team of fast black kids is just sloppy.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:07:06 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Sometimes I miss not going to a university with a successful, established footbal program. I feel like I'm missing out on the rivalries, the pursuit of a Bowl appearance, and the world of college football fandom.
Then I actually go out and do something with my Saturdays, and I don't feel quite as bad.
Submitted by Hookhand (user info) at 2006-11-17 10:05:08 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Here at MSU we love everyone who isn't U of M. I root for OSU in the UM/OSU match every year.
Also, MSU football sucks ass in so many ways I can't begin to count them. MSU hockey FTW.
Submitted by Mephisto (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:55:12 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I felt like a shitty player on a shitty team in the locker room getting fired up by my coach while I was reading this.
Thanks for warming me up for Saturday.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:55:08 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Spook- I'd rather watch Grambling play Howard than watch a fucking Big Ten game.
And that includes Big Ten basketball.
When you grow up, maybe we'll let you watch SEC Football, after you graduate from the Big East.
Even Big Ten Cheerleaders are ugly.
But they're fine for you.
PS. Go fuck yourself.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:30:01 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
and for the post....
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:27:51 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
here's for the poster
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:27:37 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
I am torn between rating the post and rating the poster...
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:22:12 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I have the same routine every game too. Wake up early, put on my FUCK MICHIGAN/ANN ARBOR'S A WHORE T-Shirt, eat a big breakfast, rip through a few beers and a joint during Gameday. Then I watch the game on the brink of an anuerysm. Upon game completion, I either pass out in a heap after a loss, or blackout upon victory. I tape the game so I can re-watch it the next day. That's if we win.
This year I'm gonna break in the new Troy Smith jersey. I'm going to have to drink myself to sleep tonight.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:17:45 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
HD?
Cool.
That's perfect 'cos the Middlesborugh v Liverpool game is on at 11:15 central so when that finishes I can switch straight to the yank football.
mel wants to go shopping on sat. tough titties!
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:17:40 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:03:42 (#)
Ranking: 0
The Big Ten has bored me to tears for the past 100 years.
Because watching Golf is where it's at.
Submitted by BuckeyesTHEGAME (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:15:06 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
3:30 PM eastern time on ABC, Apollo.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:07:18 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
i'm looking forward to this game believe it or not.
saturday night right?
i'm going to the texans on sunday. texans are shit but still, local team and all that.
i went to the panthers a few weeks ago.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:03:50 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Michigan by 10, beacause lets face it, your fight song is the GHEYZZER
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:03:42 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
The Big Ten has bored me to tears for the past 100 years.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:03:40 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Hail to the lion!
Loyal and true!
HAil, Alma Mater,
with her White and BLue!
Penn State forever!
Molder of men.
Fight for her honor (FIGHT!)
and victory again!
Submitted by Dervel (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:03:12 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Or more importantly, it's Norwich vs Ispwich on Sunday.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2006-11-17 09:02:05 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Who are the bucks?
Michigan by 8. You heard it here first.