The Pussification of Youth (5360 hits)
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Submitted by badassmofo (View user info) at 2005-10-06 13:43:18 EDT
Reading the post the Wardy made today ( http://www.ubersite.com/m/76577 ) got me thinking a bit.
I was thinking about how we are raising our kids now, I mean are we setting them up for assured failure in their coming years.
Don't get me wrong, I'm part of the problem. I have only a 22 month old daughter and I actually have to stop myself from spoiling the shit out of her. I remember thinking before she was born that I was going to give her everything I never had as a child, but is that the right way to go about it?
I mean if I hadn't gone through the tough things I did as a child from abusive step dads to Straight Incorporated I most likely wouldn't be the man I am today. So why would I in turn make my child's life one of ease and luxury? I mean I want a tough kid one that can hold her own, later on in life when the chips are down.
To go a step further are all of these modern day diagnoses; ADD, ADHD, OCD, and the rest of those new psychological problems, are they all just making excuses for behavior yet to come? Not to entirely discount these things because I suppose the probably hold some credibility as actually being conditions I just don't really agree with them. Could some of them be avoided with more time spent, with less television, maybe less sugar in our diets?
I mean we look at things like Columbine and other school shootings and the immediate public outcry is 'take pity, these kids were picked on and misunderstood.' Well boo fucking hoo. I ask who wasn't picked on, who wasn't misunderstood...not too many of us, yet even as far back as my day (ok I'm only 30 those of you in the peanut gallery) we weren't making elaborate schemes to take out our whole school because of it. Hell the most we did was give it our best at defending our honor by giving or receiving a beating in the school yard.
Seriously, have you tried to take a Gameboy away from a kid lately...they'll rip your head off for it. This is the society that we are raising, this media driven, the world owes me something, we can fix you with medication bullshit world and it is fucking sickening.
Its stuff like this that brings us terms like 'emo' and 'goth'...what a bunch of crap. You know what, the kids that dress in all black, they are not all bad...they are not all going to shoot up a school or kill a kitten, no they are just different and that is ok. But don't baby them, don't treat them with kid gloves so they don't 'blow up' fuck that make it a bit harder...push them to go further in their individuality, to actually do something with it.
I doubt that in Third World countries little MikMik wakes up thinking 'shit I better take my Adderall or my Prozac or I might just snap' and you know why? Because there is far more important stuff to think about than that for MikMik, like where is he going to get food or water for the day. You see if we take care of all of it for them then time is what they will have on their hands, time with which they will use to mimic adults...adults that are themselves already wrapped up in the misconstrued society.
You know what, take away the toys, the fucking cell phones away from the 10 year olds, the 'I'll drive you wherever you want to go' attitude and make the kids go outside. Make them walk to their friend's house, make them write a letter...you know putting pen to paper. Shit just make it a little tougher and stop feeding the corporate driven, pharmaceutical drug machine, the oh so nice and pansy world and put a little chip on your kid's shoulder...they'll love you for it more in the end.
Some 'real' tough kids
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Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-02-18 18:32:57 EST (#)
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I can't remember if I rated this before or not, but just in case I didn't, here's a +2. THIS is what Uber should be about, speaking your mind.
Submitted by Yougotthatright (user info) at 2007-04-17 11:57:53 EDT (#)
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as the father of 3 teen aged women...I totally agree with all that you have said here.
Submitted by particle_man58 (user info) at 2007-04-17 02:07:16 EDT (#)
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Right on dude.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2007-04-16 16:49:07 EDT (#)
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This was one of my favorite posts ever. I think I told you that once before.
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-04-16 15:50:17 EDT (#)
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To go a step further are all of these modern day diagnoses; ADD, ADHD, OCD, and the rest of those new psychological problems, are they all just making excuses for behavior yet to come? Not to entirely discount these things because I suppose the probably hold some credibility as actually being conditions I just don't really agree with them. Could some of them be avoided with more time spent, with less television, maybe less sugar in our diets?
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NO. These are by and large all inherited disorders - that is, passed on genetically. Unless we start selective breeding they will never go away; incidentally, not everyone with ADD/ADHD/OCD/etc. exhibit "bad" or otherwise abnormal behavior. People who classify neurological disorders as "excuses" for behaviors only serve to demonstrate their ignorance of the disorders.
That specific point aside, though, I agree with the rest of this post. The decline of personal accountability and self-responsibility in children today is growing at an alarming rate, and too many parents would rather throw money at the problem than try to fix it by modeling appropriate behavior.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-06-01 12:30:42 EDT (#)
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Nominated for best ever
http://www.ubersite.com/m/88572
Submitted by MrSparkle847 (user info) at 2005-12-30 19:47:37 EST (#)
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To go a step further are all of these modern day diagnoses; ADD, ADHD, OCD, and the rest of those new psychological problems, are they all just making excuses for behavior yet to come? Not to entirely discount these things because I suppose the probably hold some credibility as actually being conditions I just don't really agree with them.
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I have OCD, but I don't expect anyone to condone any compulsions or obsessions. That would be like doing jack shit in school and telling the teacher that you couldn't do work because you have ADD and would lose interest anyway.
I've never wanted to shoot up the school. Maybe just particular people.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2005-10-11 04:35:52 EDT (#)
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I agree with what you are saying, but don't intend to rehash what everyone else has said.
My main point is about the ADD, ADHD etc issue.
I don't know exact figures, (I could probably look them up but I am too lazy), but it seems to me that a disproportionate amount of kids/youths in the US are being medicated for some set of initials.
While it is needed in some cases it seems to be the answer to every situation in the modern world. We will follow suit as we do in most situations in Britain.
A major question should be why there are so many people being medicated at such a young age.
Might have got a bit off topic here but I hope my point gets across.
-Dave
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2005-10-11 03:14:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jimmiss (user info) at 2005-10-10 22:38:59 EDT (#)
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Amen. My neices basically boss my aunt and uncle around. It's surreal.
Submitted by Mike00295 (user info) at 2005-10-10 09:45:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BingBongBing (user info) at 2005-10-10 09:28:37 (#)
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:P
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I'm going to cock whip this motherfucker.
Submitted by BingBongBing (user info) at 2005-10-10 09:28:37 EDT (#)
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:P
Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2005-10-09 08:32:43 EDT (#)
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This message has been approved by the Bob Dole Foundation for Getting Rid of Whiny Pussy Kids.
Re: George Carlin... i think he ranted on the topic, but different stuff... but anyway, if George Carlin agrees with you, then you must be right.
Submitted by Skippy (user info) at 2005-10-09 02:18:34 EDT (#)
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Good shit! All these kids with ADD just need some decent parenting that involves discipline rather than mind altering drugs or bowing to their every whim and fancy.
Submitted by Worm (user info) at 2005-10-08 23:11:11 EDT (#)
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/cheer
Submitted by r1nce (user info) at 2005-10-08 18:44:49 EDT (#)
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Agreed.
Submitted by smoke_in_my_lungs (user info) at 2005-10-07 23:06:45 EDT (#)
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Pony Boy's one ugly lookin' motha fucka!
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-07 22:50:28 EDT (#)
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Yes X you're a thinker, for sure.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-10-07 21:41:23 EDT (#)
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OH SHIT
My bad, wrong post
I thought this said YOUNG PUSSY
Carry on...
Submitted by EatMeCompletely (user info) at 2005-10-07 16:18:09 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/76661
Do your part to stop Mall Qaeda.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-07 16:12:59 EDT (#)
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murphy - no problem man, glad my post can be of service.
forensic...I'm sure it will be a masterpeice.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2005-10-07 15:44:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Thanatos (user info) at 2005-10-07 13:57:17 (#)
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I gotta wonder if this is also related to modern medicine. 200 years ago all the weaklings would have been buried befor ethey were five. Hell, 50 years ago we at least had polio to get rid of some of the pussies. I'm not saying medicine is bad, but it sure does make Darwin's work harder.
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This gives me the incentive to finish up a post I've been working on.
Stay tuned.
Submitted by Coleslaw_Murphy (user info) at 2005-10-07 14:24:32 EDT (#)
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Ralph Macchio! What a wuss. Most people in general under the age of 25 just can't take an ass-whippin' nowadays. They either get their friends, get a gun, or sue you. Just take your ass-whippin' you coward!
(LINKWHORE)
This contest post needs more reviews: http://www.ubersite.com/m/76633
Sorry for the link, badassmofo, but I had to hit a most heated. I really do appreciate your responses to my post.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-07 14:08:53 EDT (#)
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Thanatos - you are very correct sir, sickness used to help cull the herd now we are all medicated and shit...here's to a good plague or flu to wipe the weak from existance.
Submitted by Thanatos (user info) at 2005-10-07 13:57:17 EDT (#)
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I gotta wonder if this is also related to modern medicine. 200 years ago all the weaklings would have been buried befor ethey were five. Hell, 50 years ago we at least had polio to get rid of some of the pussies. I'm not saying medicine is bad, but it sure does make Darwin's work harder.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-10-07 12:42:02 EDT (#)
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My parents had a tendency to look to me for entertainment when I was a child. As a result, my personality is made up of one part desperate "comedian," one part attention whore, and one part overly sensitive crybaby.
OK... TWO parts crybaby.
Submitted by Professional_Peon (user info) at 2005-10-07 10:51:09 EDT (#)
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My son is usually pretty well behaved. His birthday is in two weeks so I had the joy of explaining why he had to wait until his birthday to get his presents. Feel free to let me know what you want, but you have to wait blah, blah, blah.
Two of his presents are now down the shitter cause grandma caved and bought him the games, has been letting him PLAY WITH THEM and then tried to keep it a secret.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother to make rules at all.
<repeatedly slams forehead on keyboard>
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-07 09:19:05 EDT (#)
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but loki don't you feel that in some way, some small way, that the generations before were right.
I mean don't we get a bit weaker, meeker, show less intergrity and independance generation after generation...until we all become Bob the Co-Pilot from Airplane?
When does it stop when do we put our proverbial feet down and squash the uprising pansy in all of us?
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-07 09:09:27 EDT (#)
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loki - don't worry, in a few years gastric bypass will be part of the post birth cleanup procedure and America's fat kid problem will be all but taken care of.
Submitted by rayrayshanaynay (user info) at 2005-10-07 08:52:12 EDT (#)
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Poverty exists everywhere, not just third world countries. I see what you're saying though and it certainly applies to many families, neighborhoods, etc.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-10-07 08:43:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:52:44 (#)
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Berty, if I ever get the chance mate, I'm buying you a pint or 3. You're a good guy for a jew.
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what what what...
You bastard. Fyi, I actually got through this one, read the whole thing
I have no doubt you will do a fine job raising your daughter. I'm frightful for the future of this country the way kids are brought up these days but then that's what my elders said about my generation....the dinoasaurs
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-10-07 08:40:24 EDT (#)
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Oh I don't know, I think the kids will probably turn out all right. We did, or at least most of us did, not so sure about Apollo but the rest of us seem ok.
I worry that the little shits are not getting enough outside time and will end up fat, but maybe not.
It's normal to think the next generation is going to pot though isn't it. They said the same thing about us and certainly rock 'n roll was going to be the end of my dad's generation.
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2005-10-07 08:29:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:50:20 (#)
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I know many parents in my community. Some treat their kids like royalty, others like slave labor. Some leave their children to their own devices because they have no choice due to single parent status while others watch over their children like hawks, afraid that the littlest thing will upset them. Most of these kids are nice kids, but some of them are totally fucked up.
What's my point?
Kids will excercise their independence in little bits. As they become older, they want a little more here, and a little more there. It is good to give them this independence, but not too soon. An eight year old who has to rely on his or herself to prepare breakfast is not the same as a teen who has to do the same thing. Some kids get independence thrust on them too early and they are not ready for it. I think this leads to the child having anger and regret because they see how other kids are coddled and spoiled.
The right amount of supervision is a very subjective thing as is the right amount of leeway for a child to do things on their own. As parents, we need to coddle our children less, but teach them how to get along in an ever changing society. Some kids these days see violence as a viable way to make it through the everyday trials and tribulations that they face. Parents need to teach them that, although violence may have a place (defending oneself, etc.), it is surely not the answer to all of life's problems.
The kids who shoot up schools and blow things up have problems that run more deeply than just the stresses of being picked on or ridiculed. These kids see life as a disposable commodity that has no value or worth. They see revenge as a viable solution, rather than communication and reason.
Some kids feel like their backs are against a wall. They see no way out of situations and they have no guidance from either family or peer groups. This is the real problem.
I want my kids to be tough enough to handle what the world throws at them, but it doesn't stop me from protecting them and guiding them when I need to. As far as video games and other non-productive things that kids get into? Well, a little fun is ok for everybody. The problems start when the child has to rely on these things to get through the day instead of participating in athletics or music or other types of intellectual stimulation. The problem is when the parent doesn't take enough interest in the child to prevent them from becoming a slave to the controller.
I have more, but not right now.
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Well said.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-07 07:54:37 EDT (#)
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Man I could really have some heat if I got all the brits over here swapping spit for a few hours.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-10-07 07:13:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-07 05:24:50 (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:50:20 (#)
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bla bla bla bla..............etc
Yeah, I know it looks like blah, blah.......etc. I am around kids a lot though.
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2005-10-07 06:09:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by missflibble (user info) at 2005-10-07 06:01:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-10-07 05:25:12 (#)
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i doubt it, we don't get PBS in INGERLAND
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I googled PBS NOVA, kinda sounds like Horizon with a little added Brainiacs and a pinch of channel five sensationalism.
ingerland rocks.
sod PBS. you have to pay for it over there anyway.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-10-07 05:25:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-07 05:01:21 (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:47:58 (#)
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Caul, you could have browbeated the vatican into accepting Galileo's celestial theories through sheer stubborness, had you been alive back then anyway.
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I see someone has watched a recent NOVA production on PBS
Good for you """
i doubt it, we don't get PBS in INGERLAND
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-07 05:24:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:50:20 (#)
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bla bla bla bla..............etc
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I thought I said that down below?.......o wait......this IS, a writers forum.
Why people try to take a time honored, always will work, always has worked since the
beginning of man, solution, and make it so complicated with self-aggrandzing statements
and "fluff" to the point that the truism is lost, is beyond me.
Keep it short, simple and honest.
That way it stands alone without the necessity to be continually propped up.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-07 05:01:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:47:58 (#)
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Caul, you could have browbeated the vatican into accepting Galileo's celestial theories through sheer stubborness, had you been alive back then anyway.
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I see someone has watched a recent NOVA production on PBS
Good for you
Submitted by XII (user info) at 2005-10-07 03:19:56 EDT (#)
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good piece. the only good movie swayze starred in was black dog
Submitted by celine (user info) at 2005-10-07 01:54:26 EDT (#)
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Though I was never beaten, save a spanking here and there, I am tough as fuck.
There's a tangent here about the incredibly difficult farmwork I did from age 10-18, but that's another story.
My entire family was beaten financially during my entire childhood. I appreciate the value of a dollar.
Remember when you were a kid? And you stopped at the gas station/grocery store with your mom because she needed something? Some moms would say "You kids want anything?" and get you whatever you wanted. Other moms would say nothing and get you nothing.
My mom would ask us if we wanted anything, get one thing, and make all three of us kids share it.
Not the exact thing any of us wanted, and certainly not one item per child.
One item, which had the characteristics of all three requested items.
For example, I want a Baby Ruth, Katie wants a 3 Musketeers, Megan wants a Snickers.
So we got a single Nutrageous - peanuts, nougat, and caramel. Everything we loved about the candy bars we really wanted - and split it 3 ways.
It is for this reason also, that I prefer generic cereal to brand-name cereal. Store-brand frosted flakes don't sog.
Or maybe my Mom's just cheap. But that attitude certainly came in handy in college.
Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2005-10-06 23:15:28 EDT (#)
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Bad ass, mofo.
Submitted by sublime (user info) at 2005-10-06 23:12:26 EDT (#)
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EMILIO
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:59:39 EDT (#)
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I think we are saying something very similar Mike, only mine is far less polished and shows a little of my ingnorant venom...but hey, good with the bad as they say.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:50:20 EDT (#)
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I know many parents in my community. Some treat their kids like royalty, others like slave labor. Some leave their children to their own devices because they have no choice due to single parent status while others watch over their children like hawks, afraid that the littlest thing will upset them. Most of these kids are nice kids, but some of them are totally fucked up.
What's my point?
Kids will excercise their independence in little bits. As they become older, they want a little more here, and a little more there. It is good to give them this independence, but not too soon. An eight year old who has to rely on his or herself to prepare breakfast is not the same as a teen who has to do the same thing. Some kids get independence thrust on them too early and they are not ready for it. I think this leads to the child having anger and regret because they see how other kids are coddled and spoiled.
The right amount of supervision is a very subjective thing as is the right amount of leeway for a child to do things on their own. As parents, we need to coddle our children less, but teach them how to get along in an ever changing society. Some kids these days see violence as a viable way to make it through the everyday trials and tribulations that they face. Parents need to teach them that, although violence may have a place (defending oneself, etc.), it is surely not the answer to all of life's problems.
The kids who shoot up schools and blow things up have problems that run more deeply than just the stresses of being picked on or ridiculed. These kids see life as a disposable commodity that has no value or worth. They see revenge as a viable solution, rather than communication and reason.
Some kids feel like their backs are against a wall. They see no way out of situations and they have no guidance from either family or peer groups. This is the real problem.
I want my kids to be tough enough to handle what the world throws at them, but it doesn't stop me from protecting them and guiding them when I need to. As far as video games and other non-productive things that kids get into? Well, a little fun is ok for everybody. The problems start when the child has to rely on these things to get through the day instead of participating in athletics or music or other types of intellectual stimulation. The problem is when the parent doesn't take enough interest in the child to prevent them from becoming a slave to the controller.
I have more, but not right now.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:23:23 EDT (#)
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of course it is, I love all of Uber...like gay stepchildren.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:17:44 EDT (#)
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Oy!
I was being silly.
or was I?
In the wild, apes pick insects off of each other (origin of the word nitpicking) in affection. So maybe all this internet fighting is a strange way of saying; "I wuv you lots and lots! lol!!"
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:15:38 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:09:02 EDT (#)
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I don't like to fight forensic...I like debate and witty banter.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2005-10-06 22:00:33 EDT (#)
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One of these days maybe I should pick an internet fight. I don't have time for it now, but it's something to keep in mind.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-10-06 21:38:45 EDT (#)
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I'd play, but everyone who doesn't like Stabkill is my alter and makes him spam me like IHAKF. :(
Oh wait, I rate your posts, you should be safe....
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 21:30:53 EDT (#)
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seems I've lost all my playmates.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:40:21 EDT (#)
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Yup, all this heat, all these arguments started, all these opinion-gathering posts...
You're next one ought to be called "Hit Me Baby One More Time". So desperate......
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:28:03 EDT (#)
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I'm just glad you guys remember to select +2 as you banter back and forth.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:18:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:16:22 (#)
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It's all right Berty. Now, I need to go work out so I can sweat off all the bitterness that is poisoining my heart which originates from my miserable childhood so that I can love like I've never been hurt and be granted paradise, by you of course.
>:-P
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Then I bless you in the name of Mr. T, David Hasslehoff and Rolf Harris. Go with God, my son, and be sure to dig deep in your pockets for the church of Berty Christ.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:16:25 EDT (#)
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I've got to got to bed. I've got a long drive tommorow. Well, a long drive for an incompetent driver anyway.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:16:22 EDT (#)
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It's all right Berty. Now, I need to go work out so I can sweat off all the bitterness that is poisoining my heart which originates from my miserable childhood so that I can love like I've never been hurt and be granted paradise, by you of course.
>:-P
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:07:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:58:19 (#)
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Hadley - she's way out of your league...she like mature men.
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Zing, motherfucker.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:06:02 EDT (#)
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Look mate, lets squash this thing right here. I respect you, you're a clever a guy and I don't have anything aganist you.
Now I've been on this website for some time now and in that time I've made some friends, also it is the very nature of this site (or indeed any message board) to bandy about opinion and perceptions. Whilst I may grow opinionated at times, as indeed we all do, I have no illusions about my own falibility. No-one here should.
Now if you still feel that I've gotten 'too big for my boots' then there's really not a lot more I can say other than that I am saddened you feel that way.
Anyway, thats how I feel.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:02:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:00:50 (#)
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Caul I got everything you typed I guess you just didn't get me.
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hahah, oops
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 20:00:50 EDT (#)
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Caul I got everything you typed I guess you just didn't get me.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:59:34 EDT (#)
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Look, I don't think your bitter; it's called 'jocular banter'."""
I'm sorry, it's just the third time you say so. It can be confusing.
AIM doesn't seem to work mofo. Besides, I'm done camping on your post.
I'm sorry that my opinion differs with the latest super awesome Berty.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:59:34 EDT (#)
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Caul, seriously, are you ok? I haven't upset you have I? That certainly wasn't my intention.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:58:19 EDT (#)
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Hadley - she's way out of your league...she like mature men.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:56:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:51:13 (#)
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That still doesn't explain how I am bitter and how you are not O Great Judge Of Humanity.
I can still prove you that you're more bitter than I am, if you want.
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What the fuck, Caul?
Is this like that scene in Goodfellas? Are you being serious?
Look, I don't think your bitter; it's called 'jocular banter'.
I'm sorry if I've offended your sensibilities.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:51:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
That still doesn't explain how I am bitter and how you are not O Great Judge Of Humanity.
I can still prove you that you're more bitter than I am, if you want.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:49:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
fair enough
Is that you in real life though? Do you generally dislike or is that the Caulincourt persona?
Not to come across odd but we don't have to continue this here...I am on AIM jasonmag75
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:49:46 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Blimey Caul, it's a little light ribbing. No need to get defensive or nothing.
We're all friends here.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:47:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
The people of Uber, in this case Berty, seem to confuse scrappy with Berty.
I can prove you that you are more bitter than I am Bert.
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Caul, you could have browbeated the vatican into accepting Galileo's celestial theories through sheer stubborness, had you been alive back then anyway.
Anyway, I disagree. Rigid discipline is, well, rigid. They are often hampered with understanding other's point of view because they've been raised that everything is 'just so' and that if it is not 'just so' then it is wrong. Whilst this is not a problem for intelectually superiour people like yourself Caul, I'm sure you can recognise it as a problem when applied to the rest of humanity.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:47:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
well, "hate" is more like "dislike".
Hating is a bit strong.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:46:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:44:16 (#)
Ranking: 0
You truly feel hate towards people on the internet?
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I hate everyone :-)
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:44:16 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
You truly feel hate towards people on the internet?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:36:39 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Besides, it wasn't really an insult. It's true that there is always some user that the sheeps flock around. You keep hearing the "OMG <insert name> IS SO AWESOME!" And justifiably so, in a way. Some people, like Bert, can be interesting. But usually their internet-ego swells and they start fumbling, just like Berty, who knows fuck all about me, did.
When you hate everyone and everyone hates you back, like me, you have the perspective to witness these little social internet phenomenon.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:35:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm buying your daughter some Pampers thongs. Rowr.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:29:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
sorry you're right I missed that one.
I just think 'in general' I enjoy these debates with more point arguement and less penis jousting.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:27:27 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
"scrappy with Berty." should "scrapy with bitter"
sorry!
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:26:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Caul, why is it when it comes time to debate you go straight into the insults...can you argue your points without insult? """
He called me bitter, it's fair no?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:26:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
The people of Uber, in this case Berty, seem to confuse scrappy with Berty.
I can prove you that you are more bitter than I am Bert.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:26:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Look, I know you are the new acclaimed Mr.Wisdom, the latest Uber clique thing, but that doesn't make you right.
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Caul, why is it when it comes time to debate you go straight into the insults...can you argue your points without insult?
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:21:19 EDT (#)
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I'll play along Berty...there are some things that I wish didn't happen to me like my grandfathers dying, like losing my 16-0 season baseball trophy, and some other bad stuff.
I think what you are saying is like this...I wish that I didn't have to experience the emotional part of the bad, I'd like to change that. Fact is though that I can not so I accept them for what they were and over time become thankful for what they have taught me.
I don't know about y'all but I was never one that had the ability to learn from anothers lessons in life, nope not me I had to experience it first hand to get the lesson.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:17:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:12:06 (#)
Ranking: 2
Look I'm sorry but look at what you are saying!
Bad shit is not laudable, hardship is not some kind of fucking merit badge and you know it. For fucks sake, can one of you man up and say that you wish your bad shit hadn't happened to you? That your life would have been better if you hadn't watched your dad slap you mum's around? Jesus fucking Christ...
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Look, I know you are the new acclaimed Mr.Wisdom, the latest Uber clique thing, but that doesn't make you right.
We're not talking about having our mom slapped around. That sucks, obviously. We're talking about discipline and being raised into a more severe environment. I'm glad my parents raised me this way. They didn't beat me with anger, like I've seen some parents do. I'm not traumatized. They did it knowing it was what was good for me and I thank them today.
Submitted by Whiplash (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:15:17 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:12:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Look I'm sorry but look at what you are saying!
Bad shit is not laudable, hardship is not some kind of fucking merit badge and you know it. For fucks sake, can one of you man up and say that you wish your bad shit hadn't happened to you? That your life would have been better if you hadn't watched your dad slap you mum's around? Jesus fucking Christ...
Not me though. I was born poor and that made me a bad ass.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 19:09:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 18:59:23 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:24:39 (#)
Ranking: 2
wordage...
Thank God I was raised the old-fashioned way, with a baton and a belt...
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... but I'm not bitter. Not me.
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Neither am I.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 18:59:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:24:39 (#)
Ranking: 2
wordage...
Thank God I was raised the old-fashioned way, with a baton and a belt...
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... but I'm not bitter. Not me.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-06 18:11:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:54:00 (#)
Ranking: 2
It does present quite a dilemma sometimes.
You just have to be even-handed.
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Which means, sometimes you use the left, and sometimes you use the right. Keep the little fuckers on their toes.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:54:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
It does present quite a dilemma sometimes.
You just have to be even-handed.
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:25:43 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I completely agree that we are products of our environment. I had a terrible upbringing involving trailer parks, incarceration, drug addiction, constant fighting, and a lack of parents. I was able to overcome and I am a much better man for it today. I wouldnt have changed a thing. At times tragedy can build character. I blame these pussy kids on their parents.
Berty- who do you need raped? Calling me Cletus gives me morning wood.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:24:39 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
My generation is the downfall of western society. We are not involved politically (old people are more conservative, guuess what happens), we are lazy as fuck, we have no goals, we are fatalists and self-destructive, we see the future with an expiration date, we don't see one inch in front of our noses...we are spoiled retards. And the upcoming batch of kids seems even worse.
Thank God I was raised the old-fashioned way, with a baton and a belt.
Submitted by bush_for_god (user info) at 2005-10-06 17:08:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
The paragraph about 'MikMik' is one of the best ideas written about this subject, whether it's on Uber or wherever.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:33:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
userpete - you're goddamn skippy I mean that is just wrong...like who thinks its a good idea to draw attention to a 10 year old's ass?
kenney - yes they do read the book at least a dozen times and saw the movie twice that
Submitted by SkinnyKenny (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:27:40 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
The Outsiders rule.
Submitted by userpete86 (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:23:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:18:55 (#)
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COmountain - We have a DVD in the car but yeah, its for road trips of 2 hours or more.
And whats up with the pants/sweats with words on the butt...my daughter will never I mean never have those.
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I saw a ten year old girl with juicy written on her butt walking with her mom. I wanted to ask her mom if she just didn't know any better, or if she thought there weren't assholes out there that would hit that.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:18:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
COmountain - We have a DVD in the car but yeah, its for road trips of 2 hours or more.
And whats up with the pants/sweats with words on the butt...my daughter will never I mean never have those.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:14:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Amen
Submitted by COMountain (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:09:59 EDT (#)
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Yup. Some parents know exactly how to fuck up their kids and are following through with great gusto.
Type of parents I'd like to shake until their spinal cord dislocates:
-the type drop their kids off at daycares at 6 am and don't pick them up until 7 pm.
-those same parents that dwindle the attention spans by having a DVD player in their car. Use it on ROAD TRIPS, you fuckwits, not on 5-20 minute rides. You wonder why your kid is diagnosed with A.D.D.?? It's because you're a selfish twat who'd rather distract your kids than communicate.
-the ones too busy hating each other to do anything properly.
-the ones that don't instill any sort of work ethic whatsoever.
-the ones that let their daughter dress like a two dollar whore and their son all thugged out (pants around hips, not waist, walking like penguins with a chip on their shoulder).
...and what the hell is with 12 year olds looking like their 18?
...she told me she was 18... I SWEAR.
Submitted by EatMeCompletely (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:09:14 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
+2 Outsiders
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 16:04:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:56:43 (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:44:35 (#)
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I've been there userpete...sheeit I can cook Ramen like a 'mofo.
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You cook em?? Pussy.
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OMG!!! a Hadley sighting.
By cook them I mean put the package under my ass and fart a bit to warm them up.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:56:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:44:35 (#)
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I've been there userpete...sheeit I can cook Ramen like a 'mofo.
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You cook em?? Pussy.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:46:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
well then I'll let it be and welcome.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:46:46 EDT (#)
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Every generation is pussier than the one before it.
Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:41:41 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
many people have the same premonition.
To that, I say....I am just me. That's it.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:38:51 EDT (#)
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cocaine - I had it in my mind that you are an older user under a new name but I'll shut up about it if you like.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:36:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:31:26 (#)
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what do you mean 'draw me out?'
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Cletus and Badass are going to have you raped. Why do you think we all let him be called Bad Ass Motherfucker?
Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:31:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:22:35 (#)
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there is not a damn thing wrong with seeing that your kids have a better and easier go at life than you...in fact it should be a parents goal to make sure of that.
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Better and easier? Okay. So when I wanted ten things for Christmas and I got three, I had to deal with it. I was actually thankful I got anything at all. But now when my spawn comes along after I have consensual sex without money involved, I should get him everything I can within my means? If you don't learn to deal with adversity and figure out that not everything will go your way, does that mean you've got a "better and easier go at life?" It's not so much making a kid's life HARD that's a parents job, but making sure that down the road, should their life ever take a downward slope that the kid can handle it...at least in my ignorant, uninformed, non-child-having opinion...
Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:31:26 EDT (#)
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what do you mean 'draw me out?'
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:29:26 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Drew - Berty is one of them internet toughys
Mick - don't get me wrong, that is always the idea...we just have to remember to teach them it doesn't come free. I don't want a daughter who gets to 18 or 13 or even 8 or 10 and expects that she gets something for nothing. Its about accomplishment and reward.
Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:27:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:29:05 (#)
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Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:22:26 (#)
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Reinstate physical punishment as an 'acceptable' form of discipline.
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If you raise your kids right, you rarely need to use this type of punishment. It is almost always used when a parent has let some bad behavior continue for way too long...
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I completely agree. BUT if the fear of the threat actually being followed through were there, attitudes would change. I remember being in a parking lot with my dad and younger brother. My half-derranged psychotic temper-flaring but all-around nice guy of a father was yelling at my brother for something I'm sure was relatively minor. Some bitch (I'm going to assume the person was female) called the police who promptly came and questioned him while we were still in the car. Did my dad ever lay a hand on either of us? No. Was the intimidation tactic effective? You bet your ass it was. Should other people try to raise your children? No. If you want to raise a sniveling vagina, it should be your choice. If you want to raise a kid that carries a wallet that says "badass motherfucker" on it, again, your choice, not society's.
Submitted by PokeyPecker (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:27:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
It was allright. I don't know. I don't think Ralph Macchio is exactly a "real" tough kid, but maybe. Who knows?
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:23:24 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Berty, in spite of your racial handicap youre alright with me.
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:22:35 EDT (#)
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there is not a damn thing wrong with seeing that your kids have a better and easier go at life than you...in fact it should be a parents goal to make sure of that.
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:21:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:59:03 (#)
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drew I always knew you were and anit-salamite
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Yeah , I dont like bologna either. Its just not cool to like Jews in Texas. Sorry, I cave in to peer pressure. Did you know Berty threatened to kill me?
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:20:16 EDT (#)
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cocaine - I really thought today about doing a movie quote post and calling it 'attempting to draw you out' and focusing it on you...
Berty you are sick son, and need help.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:17:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:15:37 (#)
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I saw it Berty were you the scrawny one or the one with no teeth?
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I work in HR. I was the dude in the uniform with the fetching red arm band shooting the woman in the head.
Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:16:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
agreed on every count. especially about the gameboy comment. fucking kids with their electronics nowadays.
and by the way, the picture alone if worthy of a perfect rating.
'DO IT FOR JOHNNY, MAN!!!!'
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:15:37 EDT (#)
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I saw it Berty were you the scrawny one or the one with no teeth?
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:11:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:08:50 (#)
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there there just let it all out Berty
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dammit, you never saw the episode in Band of Brother when they liberated the concentration camp so you will never know our pain
*manly sob*
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:08:50 EDT (#)
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there there just let it all out Berty
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:04:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
OOKAY NOW BITCNEZ! THAT'S T' LAS TIME YOU JERK OFF DIS WANAMINGO MOTHERFUKKA! I KEEL JEW ANTI-SEMITE MOTHERFUKKAS! I KEEL YOU DED AND I TAKE YO' CHICA'S AN' MAKE DEM MINE BITCHNEZ, MOTHERFUKKAS! YOU DED!
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-10-06 15:03:38 EDT (#)
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auto +2 for Ponyboy
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:59:03 EDT (#)
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drew I always knew you were and anit-salamite.
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:55:52 EDT (#)
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Jews scare me and so does Berty.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:52:44 EDT (#)
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Berty, if I ever get the chance mate, I'm buying you a pint or 3. You're a good guy for a jew.
Mike - um I guess the shit post wave came early this week.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:50:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
She'll be fine, especially if either you or your wife/partner can maintain a decent rapport with her. Just remember to listen. Here on Uber we all bang on all the time and we've all got the answers but in reality the best thing is always to listen to a person. 'Cause they already know the answer, they just need a little time and encouragement to articulate it properly. The same will be true for your kid/s.
You'll be fine and so will she.
Submitted by Mike00295 (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:48:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Another question..
Where are all the shit posts today?
There have been far too many quality posts for a Thursday.
<opens flood gates for the worlds shittiest posts>
My bad
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:44:35 EDT (#)
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I've been there userpete...sheeit I can cook Ramen like a 'mofo.
Submitted by userpete86 (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:42:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:46:27 (#)
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You can spoil your kids while still teaching them to appreciate shit and know the value of a dollar. And you can certainly spoil them without turning them into psycho killers.
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This is the worst statement I've ever heard. You can't spoil your kids and teach them the value of a dollar. You learn how much a dollar is worth when you're eating ramen noodles every day and trying to pay your mortgage.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:36:38 EDT (#)
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*sniff sniff*
Berty, you're like Dr. Phil...you always know how to break me down in a second.
But I'm not homo for you.
Kidding aside, you are right though I have no doubt how my daughter will grow up I jsut worry about how she'll deal growing up with all the kids whose parents don't give a fuck.
Submitted by FallenZer0 (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:35:11 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by jack11058 (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:30:49 EDT (#)
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hear fucking hear, bro
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:30:45 EDT (#)
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here's the thing. What defines people in those 'make or break' moments in life is self esteem. That's it. There's no great mystery behind it all and you don't need survival training to make it in the world. You barely even need good judgement. Self-esteem, knowing that you aren't a shit bag and that you're ok.
Now, lets take a quick look at your life shall we? You say that your experiences 'toughned you up', but what does that actually mean? It meant that you had numerous issues with trust, sel-esteem and social interaction. You worked through them and you learned a lot, you where also lucky enough to fall in love with a good woman and not fuck it up long enough to get your head straight.
In other words, your life is a success in spite of your numerous personal problems not because of them. I know I harp on a lot about how there is no such thing as a bad experience but that's just something you say to people so you don't have to say "wow, that's pretty bad. Your life's pretty fucked".
All you've got to do is let your kid grow up believing that she's worthwile and help her gain knowledge about who she is as a person and, as a consequence, how people think. She'll then be sorted.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:29:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:22:26 (#)
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Reinstate physical punishment as an 'acceptable' form of discipline.
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If you raise your kids right, you rarely need to use this type of punishment. It is almost always used when a parent has let some bad behavior continue for way too long...
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:25:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:22:26 (#)
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Reinstate physical punishment as an 'acceptable' form of discipline.
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Reinstate it? You mean its outlawed...oh shit!
Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:22:26 EDT (#)
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Reinstate physical punishment as an 'acceptable' form of discipline.
Submitted by SiskelandFatboy (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:21:47 EDT (#)
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Good stuff.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:21:22 EDT (#)
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sweet.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:20:12 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:16:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kitchens_closed (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:12:30 (#)
Ranking: -1
Geroge Carlin wouldn't be very happy with you.
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Please explain yourself, if you don't mind.
Submitted by Alfa_Veloce (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:12:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
At last...some thing quality on Uber...kudos. You make some very good points dude. I'm never having kids.
Submitted by kitchens_closed (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:12:30 EDT (#)
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Geroge Carlin wouldn't be very happy with you.
Submitted by leilani (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:12:18 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
excellent post!
your daughter will surely turn out to be a cool girl.
Submitted by ruthless (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:12:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:58:07 (#)
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ruthless - when my daughter falls I throw my hands up and yell 'woohooo!' now she does it...she was walking down the sidewalk the other day and tripped and I mean splat on her face, she looked back with tears welling up and gave me the most pathetic 'woohoo' i've ever heard...but hey she's trying.
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That's cute... I'll have to try it with my stepson.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:11:43 EDT (#)
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Wildcat - if I remember right your kid is already a badass.
Submitted by Average_Dan (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:11:40 EDT (#)
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Here's your +2
This post was awesome in so many ways!
Submitted by Sassmasterr (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:11:27 EDT (#)
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plus fucking two
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:10:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:58:07 (#)
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ruthless - when my daughter falls I throw my hands up and yell 'woohooo!' now she does it...she was walking down the sidewalk the other day and tripped and I mean splat on her face, she looked back with tears welling up and gave me the most pathetic 'woohoo' i've ever heard...but hey she's trying.
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I gotta remember that next time I fuck myself up.
Submitted by WildcatMcGee (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:07:49 EDT (#)
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I agree with most of what you say here. Especially the part about ADD. In my mind it's just a way to medically excuse a kid's behavior. Little Johnny can't pay attention when you talk to him and talks back a little too much? Boot to the head. Problem solved every fucking time. I think there's a fine line between beating/abusing your kids and correcting their behavior for life. Sure, beating someone will correct alot of things but it's what they do when your not around that makes the difference.
I think the major problem these days is that there is no real family leadership. Remember back in the day when kids listened to their parents and took their advice yet still tried to be an individual? Yeah, those were the days when parents were people one could look up to.The daughters looked up to their Dad's but emulated their mothers and the sons emulated and looked up to their fathers while wanting a girl like their mother. These days most of those individuals are grandparents. A good definition of leadership, as I've heard many throughout my schooling, is getting someone to do something they would not normally do on their own and have them walk away feeling like they've done something positive. We don't have parents like that these days. My dad used to get me to mow the lawn and I felt like a man at the age of 10 just doing it. Nowadays parents do all the work while they use the TV as a babysitter.
My son will be 5 years old on February 1st. Another 2 years after that I will no longer mow the lawn and he'll start learning about real hard work, not just picking up his Thomas the Tank Engine toys. I'm gonna teach him things he can use for the rest of his life and show him how to be responsible, not just let TV and video games do it for me.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:07:27 EDT (#)
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Sphagnum - don't sweat it dude...I don't do opinion posts in hopes of Perfect +2s I do them to speak with people intelligently
Submitted by the_cole_guy (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:06:58 EDT (#)
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I feel the same way. Good post.
Submitted by Mike00295 (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:06:57 EDT (#)
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I agree.
I have 9 and 4 yr old brothers. I'm 23. Ya, I know its gross. My parents need to stop fucking.
EITHER WAY...
As for the 9 yr old, he was showing signs of being a real fucking nancy a few years back.
He just whinned too much, not little kid whinning, but "I'm gonna be a pussy and get beat up" whinning. So I did what every big brother should do in that situation. I kicked his ass all the time. Then I signed him up for hockey. I started playing when I was 7. So I figured it would help him in his little girly ways. And it did.
He is now the coolest 9 yr old I know. He doesn't take shit from the bigger kids in my parents neigborhood, but he doesn't go looking for it either. He's a badass.
Submitted by ruthless (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:06:03 EDT (#)
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Stabkill - that's exactly how my fiance and I are with his son. And the kid hardly ever cries - he's a tough little bastard. But get Grandma or mom around... it's a complete 180. Sucks.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:05:09 EDT (#)
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satchel - I remember back in High School they were pushing this 'Outcomes Based Education' system wherein you either passed or failed because they wanted to stop segregation of the ABCDF students.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:04:52 EDT (#)
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FUCK!!!!!! Sorry dude. I'm an idiot.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:04:31 EDT (#)
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FUCK
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:04:26 EDT (#)
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FUCK!
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:04:02 EDT (#)
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FUCK! Sorry Badass...
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:03:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:54:28 (#)
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It's a slow day on uber today, isn't it? Just saying, it seems very slow on here today.
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It's funny you know? All the pretentious wankers who whinge and moan about SPT haven't turned up today. And lo and behold, not a single SPT post!
What does that tell you?
Seriously, I need to know. I thought I was actually going to make a point here.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:02:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by ruthless (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:54:53 (#)
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What gets me is parents and grandparents who get more upset about scrapes and bruises on a kid than the kids who have them.
Kid falls down...doesn't cry cause it really doesn't hurt that bad and he's not bleeding or dying so he moves on...until Grandma makes a fuss over it....then he starts crying cause Grandma is making a fuss so he must be more hurt than he realized!! Time to throw a fit!
I hate that.
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Ugh. YES! I hate that too! I raised my kids this way... if they got hurt, I got their mind off the pain immediately. Not buy cuddling and hugging them, but to make them talk about how they fell or saying "wow. that was a hard fall, it probably hurt. What happened?" or even other things as a complete diversion... "Ouch, you got hurt? Hey look over here... do you see that? Or... "Where did you want to eat for lunch?" It works, believe it or not.
Save the hugs for when the feelings are hurt.
Isn't the point of having cool bandaids like Spongebob and stuff on them for exactly that point? Instead of being hurt...you have a neat reason to slap a bandaid on! This works great. Then you have kids that almost WANT to get hurt to get a bandaid. Oh, I do take care of their injury but I don't let them cry for an hour when the pain is long gone after the incident itself.
My daughter bashed her head at church (her moms church, I can't stand that shit) on a metal chair. Everyone saw it, and I snatched her up to take her to another room... (Yes, I'm a parent that actually doesn't subject tons of other people to a crying child)... she wimpered as she was about to cry and I said ... "Oooh. Look in here. It is dark!" And she goes... "ooooh." and I talked calmly and she didn't cry at all... People were amazed... "How did you get her not to cry?"
Shit...don't fucking panic. Kids are tough little bastards. IS this not common sense?
Submitted by alragusa (user info) at 2005-10-06 14:00:22 EDT (#)
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This post rocks.
LOVE THE PIC. On that note...
I grew up a greaser. Now at 24, I am engaged to a soc. I am hoping our kids get a balanced upbringing and expect just that.
Speaking in generalities, every child is different and needs different treatment. However, there has been a nationwide movement to feminize the up-and-coming male population. It disgusts me. Where are the real men? Metrosexuals did not exist 20 years ago. I am not saying men should smell bad and have motor oil under their nails. But, tanning salons? Come on! Also, what about girls dressing like hookers? So much for women's rights.
Conservatism is dead...and soon America.
Submitted by nya_nyo (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:59:23 EDT (#)
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Amen
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:58:07 EDT (#)
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ruthless - when my daughter falls I throw my hands up and yell 'woohooo!' now she does it...she was walking down the sidewalk the other day and tripped and I mean splat on her face, she looked back with tears welling up and gave me the most pathetic 'woohoo' i've ever heard...but hey she's trying.
Submitted by DonkeyOnTheEdge (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:57:19 EDT (#)
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First off, I agree. Second, the Outsiders were a bunch of emo pussies. You want hard core, you want these guys.
http://warriorsmovie.co.uk/photos/images/photo21.jpg
Taking on the Baseball Furies was hard as shit.
Submitted by satchel (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:56:51 EDT (#)
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I read an article that Britain's educators (I think it was Britain, anyway) were considering changing a "fail" grade to something less harsh: "deferred success". Apparently "failure" is a dirty word that could damage the fragile self-esteem of the little 'uns.
Teachers in Canada, don't remember the board - was probably Ontario - are discouraged from marking papers with red ink. I guess red ink is also bad for self-esteem.
None of which explains the mouth-breathing, foot-shuffling, bovine, vapid little tween crossing the intersection by my house wearing a skin-tight t-shirt bearing the notice: "That's hot". The reverse of the shirt, of course: "You're not".
She was with her mother.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:55:16 EDT (#)
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FartSmeller's comments are pretty accurate.
I'll add that giving kids things you didn't have to "spoil them" is not terrible, but when your kid doesn't respect you and demands these things it becomes a problem. There isn't anything I dislike worse than a child who cries and then the parent lets them have their way. These same people then cry that their children don't ever listen to them. Real brainy ones right there...
Submitted by ruthless (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:54:53 EDT (#)
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What gets me is parents and grandparents who get more upset about scrapes and bruises on a kid than the kids who have them.
Kid falls down...doesn't cry cause it really doesn't hurt that bad and he's not bleeding or dying so he moves on...until Grandma makes a fuss over it....then he starts crying cause Grandma is making a fuss so he must be more hurt than he realized!! Time to throw a fit!
I hate that.
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:54:28 EDT (#)
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It's a slow day on uber today, isn't it? Just saying, it seems very slow on here today.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:53:57 EDT (#)
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Preach it, Brother.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:50:55 EDT (#)
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I couldn't finish reading it because I forgot to take my adderall today.
But this:
"Could some of them be avoided with more time spent, with less television, maybe less sugar in our diets?"
In a word, yes.
Television and sugar are the devil. As is luxury.
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:49:35 EDT (#)
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yep.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:48:46 EDT (#)
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my name is apollo88 and i endorse this post.
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2005-10-06 13:46:27 EDT (#)
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You can spoil your kids while still teaching them to appreciate shit and know the value of a dollar. And you can certainly spoil them without turning them into psycho killers.