Baseball is a joke, and here is why (1406 hits)
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Submitted by David Jones <davjones.at.iastate.edu> (View user info) at 2004-10-28 18:45:32 EDT
I have been reading all these posts from Boston fans that are taunting the Yankees, and Yankee fans brag back that they have won 20 some odd times, so they are obviously still superior. I read them because they are funny.
I find it humorous is the way Yankee fans can have any respect for the way their team wins. Your team wins a lot, it's true, but come on, how proud can you be when your 3-5 batters make more money than some whole teams you play against? Give me a fucking break.
The Yankees this year had an estimated $180 million payroll. That is $64 million more than the next highest team and $76 million more than rival Boston. Just to put this into perspective, the payroll of Tampa Bay this year was $31 million.
Notice the Yankee's payroll was $64 million more than the next highest team and the ENTIRE PAYROLL FOR ANOTHER TEAM WAS $31 MILLION. 11 different teams in baseball have a total payroll of less than the deficit between the Yankee's payroll, and the next highest teams. No wonder any year you don't win is a fucking joke. How the hell the Yankees managed to blow it this year is beyond me.
I haven't had respect for baseball since the '94 lockout, and I probably won't until the players association realizes baseball is broken, and that it needs a salary cap - among other things.
Unless you have the $100+ million to shell out for steroid driven players (another thing the players association is dropping the ball on) you just aren't likely to succeed in baseball, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Here are the payrolls for MLB taken from ESPN.com:
-Teams with asterisks made the playoffs-
New York Yankees** $180,322,403
New York Mets 116,253,927
Los Angeles** 109,248,680
Texas 106,277,880
Boston** 104,873,607
Atlanta** 103,912,011
St. Louis** 101,825,848
San Francisco 100,061,211
Philadelphia 95,338,704
Arizona 92,665,040
Seattle 92,268,063
Chicago Cubs 86,576,763
Anaheim** 83,235,098
Houston** 79,946,964
Colorado 78,738,492
Baltimore 75,502,154
Chicago White Sox 71,336,029
Minnesota** 65,318,977 Huge props to Minnesota for winning on this payroll
Cincinnati 65,083,196
Florida 63,281,152
Pittsburgh 62,314,723
Toronto 61,175,638
Detroit 59,006,941
Cleveland 58,108,824
San Diego 57,871,722
Oakland 56,596,691
Kansas City 48,475,322
Milwaukee 47,294,226
Montreal 45,853,889
Tampa Bay 31,660,602
Notice only one team in the lower half of the payroll dream pool made it into the playoffs, and their payroll was just over 1/3 of the Yankee's, but still only 2/3 of Boston's.
Tell me baseball isn't broken.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0721/1583823.html
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-03-23 21:56:27 EST (#)
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For hating on baseball, faggot.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-03-08 21:40:48 EST (#)
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Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2005-03-08 17:12:55 (#)
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I buy the body type, but it only goes so far. There is simply no reason for the morbidly obese.
I guess I am satan spawn. I am 5'6" 125 pounds. Eating 4-5k calories a day and following a strict lifting regime I made my way up to 135 over the course of 18 months. I messed my knee up and had to be inactive for 2 months. In that time I lost 5 pounds, got discouraged and just 4 months later I lost all my progress. Been a steady 125 since then. I plan to start the heavy lifting back up after spring break and if anyone has any suggestion for me to gain weight faster than 10 pounds in a year in a half PLEASE TELL ME OMFG I DON'T WANT TO BE A SCRAWNY BITCH ANYMORE.
Same boat man. Since I broke my arm and have been unable to lift I've lost what little I was able to put on.
Strange thing is, boot camp was able to put 10 pounds on me in just 6 weeks. Can't replicate that success here.
One hint though, Brazilian jiu jitsu (how I broke my arm but dont let that put you off). You learn how to take people down and fight them on the ground, you won't need muscle. Fuck I miss it.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-03-07 06:04:17 EST (#)
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I agree
football is the only sport that counts
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-10-29 17:57:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Thereisnogod (user info) at 2004-10-29 10:13:54 (#)
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How the fuck does the amount of money someone makes reflect upon how well they play? I am so sick of all these losers bashing the high-paid teams simply because they have money. Now, I don't give a fuck for american teams but when you use the excuse of another team making too much, well, maybe the other teams need to try that much harder. It's obvious teams can win 20+ world series in their time, why not the Oakland A's or the Minnesota Twins?
Three words for you:
NOT ENOUGH HEART
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You are simply wrong. All there is to say about that.
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-10-29 17:55:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by congo (user info) at 2004-10-29 09:02:16 (#)
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Attendance is at an all-time high, league-wide, but baseball is broken.
OK.
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Baseball, and pro sports in general, are SUPPOSED to be about competition. Tell me where the competition - because I don't see any. In this light, it is broken.
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AAE/RyuFe/whoever is looking at this in a capitalistic light - Once against, sure it's working great as a money industry, but hell, so does professional wrestling. The two have roughly the same amount of competition and realism nowaday. There are 6-8 truly competitive teams, and the rest simply have next to no shot. If this is the baseball you want, hey, different strokes for different folks, but come on, wouldn't it be really exciting if on any year any team had a real shot of winning?
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1.12gig or whatever your name is - If you have some kind of reading comprehension you would realize I meant if you added the 3-5 batters salaries, and clearly you would see it is higher than some teams. Thanks for being dumb. Move along.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2004-10-29 10:52:13 EDT (#)
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Also, here's Gig's table in an easier to read format.
N.Y. Yankees $182,835,513....$6,304,673
Boston 125,208,542.....4,173,618
Anaheim 101,084,667.....3,743,877
New York Mets 100,629,303.....3,870,358
Philadelphia 93,219,167.....3,452,562
Chicago Cubs 91,101,667.....3,141,437
Los Angeles 89,694,342.....3,449,782
Atlanta 88,507,788.....3,160,992
San Francisco 82,019,167.....2,645,780
Seattle 81,543,833.....2,912,280
St. Louis 75,633,517.....3,025,341
Houston 74,666,303.....2,986,652
Arizona 70,204,984.....2,420,862
Ch. White Sox 65,212,500.....2,508,173
Colorado 64,590,403.....2,306,800
Oakland 59,825,167.....2,215,747
Texas 54,825,973.....1,890,551
San Diego 54,639,503.....2,185,580
Minnesota 53,585,000.....2,060,962
Baltimore 51,212,653.....1,829,023
Toronto 50,017,000.....1,923,731
Kansas City 47,609,000.....1,586,967
Detroit 46,353,554.....1,655,484
Montreal 43,197,500.....1,439,917
Cincinnati 43,067,858.....1,538,138
Florida 42,118,042.....1,559,927
Cleveland 34,569,300.....1,152,310
Pittsburgh 32,227,929.....1,193,627
Tampa Bay 29,506,667.....1,092,840
Milwaukee 27,518,500.....1,100,740
Submitted by NotApologizing (user info) at 2004-10-29 10:50:26 EDT (#)
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A salary cap would be stone dumb for both sides. There is a luxury tax that states if a team spends above a certain amount (I believe it's $100MM), they are taxed on the amount by which they exceed the limit. That tax is distributed among all the teams in the league. So while the Yankees and Red Sox don't benefit from it, they are able to DO it because they don't need that luxury tax distribution to remain profitable.
Unfortunately, sports ignore the rules of capitalism and you're helping it. Bud Selig RAPED the Milwaukee Public by paying a team shit--just enough to break even--then collecting in revenue sharing and luxury tax dispursements. The fact is, teams with enough money should spend it how they want. And capitalism should dictate that non-profitable teams be eliminated. But instead we've got this socialist structure--set up by the man (Selig) most able to benefit from it--that keeps shit teams in the league for no reason.
What a HUGE conflict of interest having an owner double as commissioner.
I am from Detroit. Our hockey team has the 2nd highest payroll in the NHL. Why? Because we the fans go to every game, buy jerseys, and eat lotsa Little Caesars pizza. The money spent has translated into success for the Red Wings, much like the Yankees. But look at the Rangers. They have the highest payroll ($9MM/year for Bobby Holik!?) and haven't made the playoffs in a decade. And the Yankees haven't won a series since 2000, so money isn't everything.
I LOVE the fact that the Yankees are in the league. It gives me and everyone else a team to root against. Sure spending money helps, but look at the Red Sox. You can't tell me that they aren't a cohesive team who truly care about one another. THAT is why they won.
I will agree with you on steroids though. The fucking union is really glazing the fans with their bullshit. MLB has been VERY lucky the past few years. You had McGwire and Sosa in '98, which really helped bring a lot of fans back. Then Barry Bonds hired an unbelievable (heh) personal trainer and he blew up too. The Yankees won the AL after 9/11 and played a great world series. You've had a loveable Anaheim team, a working-man's Minnesota team doing well, a young upstart Marlins team, and the Sox/Yankees rivalry has been hot the past few years too. MLB has been lucky, but I've got a feeling that the floor is about to fall out from under them in the near future.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2004-10-29 10:30:58 EDT (#)
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RyuFu actually has a pretty legit point there, dude.
A good example of institutionalized equality is in the cases of mens and womens sports under Title IX. Mens sports bring in money. It's not to say that womens sports never bring in money, but the fact of the matter is that mens sports bring in a lot more of it. Now, do you honestly think that it's fair for money to be doled out purely with an eye towards equality and no mind towards the return on investment? Mens teams keep getting DICKED thanks to Title IX's levelling the playing field on funding, because in order to ensure equal funding, institutions are forced to either drop mens programs of vastly underfund them in order to build new womens teams TO fund or to vastly overfund the existing ones. And that's before you even think about the fact that ESPECIALLY football, and also mens hockey, brings in a ridiculous amount of money, but also takes a lot of money to run (huge rosters, massive coaching staffs, lot of equipment, hardcore field maintenance, blah blah blah).
This is the same kind of shit you're going to run into with the salary cap. Furthermore, you don't need a massive payroll to win championships. I have no place to paint myself as a champion of the small-budget teams , as a Red Sox fan, but I say again, it's possible. Even if you look at the Sox's postseason, you'll see that a lot of the guys who factored in in the playoffs were semi-sleepers during the season, whose skills came up to play in the postseason. That's smart investing and COMPLETE analysis of a player by Theo Epstein and company (Thanks Theo. No, really. Thank you thank you thank you), not blind spending. If managers would get moving on intergrating quality sabermetrics into their purchasing and planning, I think you'd see a difference in payrolls, but unfortunately they seem reluctant to do so for some reason. People are weird.
Anyway, the point is that a salary cap wouldn't be as much of a cureall as you are thinking it would be.
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Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:18:38 (#)
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do you think if a salary cap were implemented that ticket prices would go down? or that you would be able to buy a hot dog for 50 cents and a beer for a buck?
****Where the fuck can you buy a hot dog for 50 cents and a beer for a buck? Man, I'm going to all the wrong parks.*****
Submitted by Thereisnogod (user info) at 2004-10-29 10:13:54 EDT (#)
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How the fuck does the amount of money someone makes reflect upon how well they play? I am so sick of all these losers bashing the high-paid teams simply because they have money. Now, I don't give a fuck for american teams but when you use the excuse of another team making too much, well, maybe the other teams need to try that much harder. It's obvious teams can win 20+ world series in their time, why not the Oakland A's or the Minnesota Twins?
Three words for you:
NOT ENOUGH HEART
Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (user info) at 2004-10-29 09:53:58 EDT (#)
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Way to go genius! You write a shitty post with inconsistant facts. I would -2 this even if I was a Red Sox fan, but thankfully I'm not.
Waa waa waa, cry for me some more about high payrolls. Baseball sucks! Boo hoo!
Shut the fuck up. It's the way things are. Pro baseball players make more than you.
Oh and by the way, no one on the Yanks makes more than 27 million A YEAR, so again, you are factually incorrect.
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Team Payroll Average
N.Y. Yankees $182,835,513 $6,304,673
Boston 125,208,542 4,173,618
Anaheim 101,084,667 3,743,877
New York Mets 100,629,303 3,870,358
Philadelphia 93,219,167 3,452,562
Chicago Cubs 91,101,667 3,141,437
Los Angeles 89,694,342 3,449,782
Atlanta 88,507,788 3,160,992
San Francisco 82,019,167 2,645,780
Seattle 81,543,833 2,912,280
St. Louis 75,633,517 3,025,341
Houston 74,666,303 2,986,652
Arizona 70,204,984 2,420,862
Ch. White Sox 65,212,500 2,508,173
Colorado 64,590,403 2,306,800
Oakland 59,825,167 2,215,747
Texas 54,825,973 1,890,551
San Diego 54,639,503 2,185,580
Minnesota 53,585,000 2,060,962
Baltimore 51,212,653 1,829,023
Toronto 50,017,000 1,923,731
Kansas City 47,609,000 1,586,967
Detroit 46,353,554 1,655,484
Montreal 43,197,500 1,439,917
Cincinnati 43,067,858 1,538,138
Florida 42,118,042 1,559,927
Cleveland 34,569,300 1,152,310
Pittsburgh 32,227,929 1,193,627
Tampa Bay 29,506,667 1,092,840
Milwaukee 27,518,500 1,100,740
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2004-10-29 09:36:49 EDT (#)
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Wait till next year, we're gonna romp on Minnesota's ass.
- Cleveland
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2004-10-29 09:02:16 EDT (#)
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Attendance is at an all-time high, league-wide, but baseball is broken.
OK.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2004-10-29 07:05:59 EDT (#)
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This post was undoubtedly stolen from the inner recesses of my cortex - I've been thinking this for ten years.
Your apology is most definitely accepted my friend. I'm glad we could bury the hatchet.
Submitted by PWNstar (user info) at 2004-10-29 03:59:16 EDT (#)
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Good point. The problem is that it isn't a community of owners and that they are so private that it can vary that much. It is, like mentioned below me, great for capitalism. However, it is poor for competition in the sport.
Oh, and hockey and football are both better.
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-10-28 23:40:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CanucksFan (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:28:19 (#)
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It's already been done. Yes we all know the Yankees 'buy' their team. It's not like the owners of other teams don't have enough to buy those kind of players, they are just cheap, and it shows in the level of skill their teams have. Not to mention, you seem to be biased towards the sox...even though(if you check other sources) have the second highest payroll.
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Well, considering I live in Iowa, and haven't followed baseball beyond what I must endure on sportscenter since '94 I highly doubt I am biased towards any team. The owners of the other clubs in fact DO NOT have the money to buy those players, or if they do, doing so would be a bad investment, because they don't have the largest city in the world as a fan base.
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As for the "it's been done" people out there - go fuck yourselves, everything has been done, what a worthless addition, you may as well just -2 and no comment.
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Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2004-10-28 20:29:10 (#)
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Way to get last year's payrolls and write about them like they're this year's, dipshit.
The top two payrolls are now the Yanks and Sox.
And nobody ever said money necessarily buys talent. It just gets you the players you want. What they do once you acquire them isn't a given.
And yea, players make a shitload of money. They're way overpaid. Sammy Sosa makes over $85,000 A GAME! That's %150 more than my YEARLY salary! But you know what? They're able to get paid that much because they bring in fucking revenue.
"Wha-?"
Re-ve-nue. In other words, ordinary people like you and me (well, like me and other people apparently) pay to see these players. So A-Rod and Jeter each make $20M+ a year. Do you think Steinbrenner shells out this cash out of the kindness of his heart for what they have accomplished? Fuck no!! It's an INVESTMENT! This year the Yankees sold more tickets than ever before--because people wanted to see all these players they acquired!
Let's say that the Yankee payroll costs about $1.5M per game ($194M/162 games). Their average attendance this year was 49,000 people per game (rounded down). Let's say the average attendee grumpily pays 4 bucks for a hot dog, 4 bucks for a soda and 5 bucks for a box of Crunch'n'Munch (no more Cracker Jack :( ). And let's assume only half the fans consume only 1 beer (yea right) at a refreshing 7 bucks a pop. Oh, I almost forgot--the tickets. At an average price of oh, I dunno 80 bucks (yea right--luxury boxes). Oh, what the hell, let's throw in a quarter of the fans buying a t-shirt for 20 bucks and a quarter of the fans buying a program for 10.
That's a grossly under-estimated grand total of $5,463,500 for a single game. The stats I used could easily be realistically tweaked to make the per-game gross well over $10M. And this is all possible because people WANT to come see the players and partake in all the overpriced action. Personally, I eat well before a game and try to sneak in a snack. And I get tix in the right field bleachers, the most fun place on earth. So my contribution to the player's salary tends to top out around 10 dollars. If everyone thought like me, perhaps players wouldn't get paid as much. But not everyone does.
So you can just shut the fuck up, realize we live in a capitalist society, and watch some baseball or go fuck yourself.
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RyuFu - simple mistake on the years payrolls, just a misclick, but do you really think it changes anything? So the numbers are a few million different here and there, they mean the same fucking thing.
Money clearly buys talent.
You would have to be blind to not see the correlation between winning teams, and huge payrolls.
Please do not ever consider yourself intelligent enough to teach me anything about investments, or capitalism. The fact is, you simply aren't that bright, and you don't have the background to step. I understand the system, and I know it is broken.
One last thing...I may have used dated information, but at least mine was sourced. You pull random numbers out of your ass thinking it proves your nearly trivial point and think to critisize my 1 year old info? You should take your own advice, you are making yourself look bad.
"So you can just shut the fuck up...and watch some baseball or go fuck yourself."
Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2004-10-28 22:12:23 EDT (#)
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Ugh...the Brewers don't even deserve THAT much.
Submitted by UlfGabe (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:59:22 EDT (#)
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And yea, players make a shitload of money. They're way overpaid. Sammy Sosa makes over $85,000 A GAME! That's %150 more than my YEARLY salary! But you know what? They're able to get paid that much because they bring in fucking revenue.
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Idiot, baseball is broken because there is not one iota of "real" competetion. (i admit football has much more competition, the profit sharing is the right way to go, along with a few teams -it allows the talent to be spread, and a focus on improvement instead of snapping up the big guys-)
Baseball is also not a sport. I don't care how many games they play or how long they play them, all of the players are slow, fat, stupid, lazy, basards.
I dont know about you, but i do know that when i played baseball a long time ago i was bored, i sucked, nothing was any good about it. Lots of waiting in the outfield, in the midfield, as pitcher, on the bench, in the dugout, as backcatcher, even as first base.
i went crazy.
fuck baseball. morons like baseball. Its too passive
Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:58:12 EDT (#)
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baseball is lame.
Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:45:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by NerfHerder (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:08:50 (#)
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Basball isn't broken.
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Yankee fan.
Submitted by spedmonkey (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:44:50 EDT (#)
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The Yankees and the Red Sox are bad for baseball. Agreed. But still...
GO SOX WOO!
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:37:09 EDT (#)
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baseball is a joke, yes
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:21:35 EDT (#)
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I was going to give this a -2 without reading it. The title is kind of misleading, but I'm a dumb shit, so it all balances out.
Milwaukee is third from the bottom, but mark my words, they will be playoff contenders next year. Their talent on the minor league level is scary-good. They wont all stick around (unless people start showing up to games--I get lonely sitting there alone in my section) when they start playing for big contracts, but they have a bunch of studs who are Major-League-ready.
Baseball needs a fucking salary cap. It's not a mystery why the NFL has so much parity.
Submitted by NerfHerder (user info) at 2004-10-28 21:08:50 EDT (#)
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Basball isn't broken.
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2004-10-28 20:29:10 EDT (#)
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Way to get last year's payrolls and write about them like they're this year's, dipshit.
The top two payrolls are now the Yanks and Sox.
And nobody ever said money necessarily buys talent. It just gets you the players you want. What they do once you acquire them isn't a given.
And yea, players make a shitload of money. They're way overpaid. Sammy Sosa makes over $85,000 A GAME! That's %150 more than my YEARLY salary! But you know what? They're able to get paid that much because they bring in fucking revenue.
"Wha-?"
Re-ve-nue. In other words, ordinary people like you and me (well, like me and other people apparently) pay to see these players. So A-Rod and Jeter each make $20M+ a year. Do you think Steinbrenner shells out this cash out of the kindness of his heart for what they have accomplished? Fuck no!! It's an INVESTMENT! This year the Yankees sold more tickets than ever before--because people wanted to see all these players they acquired!
Let's say that the Yankee payroll costs about $1.5M per game ($194M/162 games). Their average attendance this year was 49,000 people per game (rounded down). Let's say the average attendee grumpily pays 4 bucks for a hot dog, 4 bucks for a soda and 5 bucks for a box of Crunch'n'Munch (no more Cracker Jack :( ). And let's assume only half the fans consume only 1 beer (yea right) at a refreshing 7 bucks a pop. Oh, I almost forgot--the tickets. At an average price of oh, I dunno 80 bucks (yea right--luxury boxes). Oh, what the hell, let's throw in a quarter of the fans buying a t-shirt for 20 bucks and a quarter of the fans buying a program for 10.
That's a grossly under-estimated grand total of $5,463,500 for a single game. The stats I used could easily be realistically tweaked to make the per-game gross well over $10M. And this is all possible because people WANT to come see the players and partake in all the overpriced action. Personally, I eat well before a game and try to sneak in a snack. And I get tix in the right field bleachers, the most fun place on earth. So my contribution to the player's salary tends to top out around 10 dollars. If everyone thought like me, perhaps players wouldn't get paid as much. But not everyone does.
So you can just shut the fuck up, realize we live in a capitalist society, and watch some baseball or go fuck yourself.
Submitted by kitchens_closed (user info) at 2004-10-28 20:22:45 EDT (#)
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Wow, that's some freaky shit Wiggles.
Submitted by kitchens_closed (user info) at 2004-10-28 20:20:34 EDT (#)
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I agree with you in a lot of ways, but this has been done before countless times, if not on this site, on tv, and if not on tv, in newspapers.
I think all professional athletes make way too much goddamned money, whether they play in the NFL, MLB, or the NBA. I'm sure the saleries are all "just" in some sense, because they are proportional to revenues, expenditures, and all that other bullshit, but jesus christ! These poeple do not deserve so much money.
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2004-10-28 20:18:14 EDT (#)
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Sorry MickGinny, I can't agree with you on this. All high-profile professional sports are hideously out of control. Why are we spending billions of dollars to watch uneducated, drugged-up athletes compete for more money? I used to follow the NFL, NBA, and MLB but it makes me sick nowadays.
If it isn't free or really really cheap, sporting events are just plain stupid.
Submitted by Mitchell (user info) at 2004-10-28 20:06:34 EDT (#)
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or maybe its just so boring. Play a real sport, like soccer.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:29:13 EDT (#)
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Thats why baseball sucks
Submitted by CanucksFan (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:28:19 EDT (#)
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It's already been done. Yes we all know the Yankees 'buy' their team. It's not like the owners of other teams don't have enough to buy those kind of players, they are just cheap, and it shows in the level of skill their teams have. Not to mention, you seem to be biased towards the sox...even though(if you check other sources) have the second highest payroll.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-28 19:23:17 EDT (#)
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The stupid Irish Mic below said this:
"Try what I do next April, go to AA . . ."
What a suprise that an Irish Mic has to go to AA, you'll probably run into all of your people there and by people I mean pasty white guys with small penises from Ireland. Fucking Faggot.
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:18:38 EDT (#)
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It is apparent that these clubs like the yankees generate enough revenue to have a 180 million payroll.
Why should there be a salary cap? So that the owners can keep the extra profit that would have went to the players? do you think if a salary cap were implemented that ticket prices would go down? or that you would be able to buy a hot dog for 50 cents and a beer for a buck?
The level of play in baseball right now is better than I can remember.
Baseball is a profession. This is America. We are capitalists.
You need to get over '94 man. And start enjoying the game for the game. Fuck all the other peripheral shit. Try what I do next April, go to AA and AAA games where the guys are making 600 bucks a week. Watch the pros without sound on tv, who needs to hear Joe Buck go on and on about how fuckin hairy Johnny Damon is anyway?
Submitted by Hanz at 2004-10-28 19:15:19 EDT (#)
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You sound like a whiny American Jew, why don't you cheer a real sport like the soccer.
Submitted by heyzues (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:13:39 EDT (#)
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WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO
I don't watch sports, it just reminds me of my short comings.
Submitted by Schwarzes_Glas (user info) at 2004-10-28 19:11:47 EDT (#)
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Makes me cringe.