Bitter? I'll tell you why I'm bitter. (1806 hits)
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Submitted by Bigmike (View user info) at 2008-04-15 11:41:22 EDT
Excuse me for a minute while I interrupt your usual feeding frenzy of criticism and narcissism to bring you an opinion. Sorry, this will only take a minute.
I hate politics and never get involved in them. That being said.....
I'm getting quite sick of hearing how Obama and Clinton are going back and forth on Obama's statement that the people of Pennsylvania are bitter. I think that political candidates are always looking for something to hold on to, something to use against their rivals during the race for the top job in America.
I think however, that Obama is onto something here. Before I get into it I must tell you all that I am not politically motivated in the slightest. I am so jaded and cynical towards the political process that I don't care who wins or loses in the race for biggest scapegoat in our country. Let's face it, there are no candidates that identify with what I consider to be the "common man."
Now, let me tell you why I'm bitter.
I'm bitter because when I look at the candidates I see a "holier than thou" mentality. What I mean by this is that the candidates always seem to be touting what they have don't right or how they have been altruistic or good. I see men and women who have placed themselves above the crowd, always standing tall overlooking the carnage and assessing how they can play a part in taking advantage of the chaos. I see eyes that are always searching for an advantage. I see a mentality of greed and opportunity where the last man/woman left standing will just assume control.
I see treachery and deceit.
If I could just be comfortable that a candidate, any candidate was looking through the eyes of the common populace, I would be comfortable in placing faith in that person. Unfortunately I don't.
What happens to the "common man" when any of the three most popular candidates wins the race? How am I supposed to identify with a woman that I can't bring myself to trust? How can I possibly support a man who just can't seem to portray to me that he is anything less that elitist? How can I possibly even think of voting for a man who can't decide whether he is a liberal or a conservative republican?
I'm bitter....
.....about the state of the union.
.....about gas prices and the ability of the oil companies to make record profits.
.....about crime in our states, cities, universities, and school.
.....about the fact that I don't see it getting better in the future.
Bitter? Damn right I'm bitter and if the candidates are disillusioned enough to think that I am the only one, they certainly aren't heading in the right direction.
When a candidate comes along who seems genuinely concerned about me, my family, and the people around me, that's when I will stand up and fight for them. That's when I feel my vote will make a difference.
Until then.....
....well, until then I will be bitter towards the process and the system. Bitter towards the candidates.
Bitter towards all of it until the process can show me somebody who will truly make a difference from MY perspective.
Carry on.
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Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2008-08-10 20:49:03 EDT (#)
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yup
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2008-04-18 20:26:38 EDT (#)
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I think just about every member of the fading middle class echos your sentiments. See, the funny thing is really that the solutions are fucking obvious. If you're interested in promoting the best interests of the people, you need jobs (tax the hell out of companies who outsource, nationalize the debt we owe China, set an age limit on executive levels of all publically owned corporations), education (take away dependent credits, oblige parents (through taxes) to pay for their children to attend school), and energy (resources for clean anergy research, tax credits for purchasing vehicles that don't rely on oil).
The problem is that you don't have leaders who are interested in the welfare of the people. You have leaders who are interested in their own welfare, and a growing number of leaders who are too damned old and senile to hold interests any longer.
The question isn't what obvious measures would provide a solutions to our problems, but what measures we. as a collective, can take to force the administration into making them. Are we ready to band together, shove aside the hot button issues and really cut deep to make a change? Are we ready to put down the fucking iPods and portable DVD players long enough to take an interest in our own future? Or is it easier to let things go as they are?
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2008-04-18 19:41:05 EDT (#)
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Were you purposely being ironic by calling every narcissitic as part of a sentence looking down on everyone, then accouncing that you don't get involved in politics before a long statement about politics?
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2008-04-18 05:43:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by stone8946 (user info) at 2008-04-17 17:05:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-17 15:16:23 EDT (#)
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Oh, and I appreciate the feedback X54.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-17 15:15:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by X54 (user info) at 2008-04-16 23:01:52 EDT (#)
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What the fuck do you know, you ignorant prick? Because you can't have things YOUR way, you see treachery and deceit. It's all about you, isn't it, you selfish bastard. Instead of criticising the men and women the rest of us have elected for not "looking through the eyes of the common populace" (read, "Me, Bigmike, Me Me Me"), why don't you try looking through their eyes for a change? Do you have any idea of the sacrifice your public servants make for you? Do you have any idea of their dedication? Of course not. You're too busy complaining about how they've "placed themselves above the crowd." Where the hell do you think they should place themselves? At your feet? Whiners like you make me sick. Just who the hell do you think you are to criticize your betters?
Once again I will state this:
My post here is more of a wish to identify with a candidate, any candidate. Are they better than me? Perhaps at what they do. I bet I'm much more of an optician than any of them. This is not the point. Whining? I think not. More like hoping that someday I will truly feel passionate about backing a presidential candidate that I can IDENTIFY with and whom I hope can truly do well for our country.
In case any of you haven't noticed, the American economy and/or situation as global policeman isn't getting any better.
Submitted by X54 (user info) at 2008-04-17 00:31:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilledwithHate (user info) at 2008-04-16 23:58:00 EDT (#)
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Before my tears come, though, X.54, why did you give a +2 if you disliked the post? Just curious what motivates you.
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What makes you think I disliked it? Have another martini, and try not to spill this one.
Submitted by FilledwithHate (user info) at 2008-04-16 23:58:00 EDT (#)
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Wow, thanks Skrap, I was so enraged by your cutting wit, I was all about to respond suddenly in some ignorant, irate way. Fortunately for me, your powerful attack made so crazed I spilt my martini, and therefore I saw your second posting 3 minutes later apprising us of your brilliant strategy. Better I be lucky than smart, huh Skrap, especially as I wilt before your brilliant eloquence. You wily, wily man. I'll go cry now and leave everybody alone.
Before my tears come, though, X.54, why did you give a +2 if you disliked the post? Just curious what motivates you.
Submitted by X54 (user info) at 2008-04-16 23:01:52 EDT (#)
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What the fuck do you know, you ignorant prick? Because you can't have things YOUR way, you see treachery and deceit. It's all about you, isn't it, you selfish bastard. Instead of criticising the men and women the rest of us have elected for not "looking through the eyes of the common populace" (read, "Me, Bigmike, Me Me Me"), why don't you try looking through their eyes for a change? Do you have any idea of the sacrifice your public servants make for you? Do you have any idea of their dedication? Of course not. You're too busy complaining about how they've "placed themselves above the crowd." Where the hell do you think they should place themselves? At your feet? Whiners like you make me sick. Just who the hell do you think you are to criticize your betters?
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-04-16 21:51:38 EDT (#)
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I know how the below reads. It's on purpose, y'see. I want to see if FilledWithSplooge will respond before it reads this disclaimer saying I'm just winding it up. Devious, me.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-04-16 21:48:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilledwithHate (user info) at 2008-04-16 12:08:36 EDT (#)
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You'll trade 1040s with me any day, eh? I'll, uh... pass. Perhaps when you make in a week what I spent on dinner tonight we'll discuss it long enough for me to laugh in your face. Till then (and you may remember this line from our last interaction), this and nothing more: fuck off, loser.
Submitted by FilledwithHate (user info) at 2008-04-16 12:08:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-04-15 21:30:23 EDT (#)
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Enter FilledWithHate, stage left. The only way one can see any outcome of this election as a positive step for America is if that one is suckling at the government teat, draining better-used resources through some completely fictitious sense of entitlement. Fuck you for your ignorance and stupidity. Go on. Vote Hillary and then complain when she's taken away even more of what few Civil Rights you have left to you in the name of 'national security'. Vote Obama and then complain when the country's toleranced it's way into chaos in the name of 'international understanding'. Vote McCain and then complain when the economy tanks through political in-fighting in Congress in the name of 'bipartisianship'. Vote, but don't worry. Someone will take care of you so you don't have to. Won't be Clinton or Obama or McCain, though. More than likely that someone will be me or one of the unrepresented millions like me, and will you send a note of thanks? Hell no; you're entitled to be taken care of, right?
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Your predictions about the likely outcomes are a joke. Can you count how many accurate predictions you made about the Bush administration? I am sure you are a virtual soothsayer. Got all that Iraq stuff right, the economic stuff right, the trade and budget stuff deficit right, didja? How'd that go?
You seem to think I am a welfare mom, or something. In fact, I pay a buttload of taxes, well over the median I am sure. I am just sorry that it was wasted on the last 8 years of shite from this administration. So here is your note of thanks:
Fuck off, cunt, I will trade 1040's with you any day.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-16 11:55:26 EDT (#)
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"Being honest is too complicated. It's easier to break people up into smaller target demographics and then custom tailor your personality to them when you have face time. You can pick and choose your "abortion rights", "anti gun control", "DC Jesus" slots and tally up the numbers to see where you stand without even bothering to hold an election."
Yes bart, but wouldn't it be a breath of fresh air to see something different?
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2008-04-16 03:15:16 EDT (#)
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ITS THE BEST GLUE
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2008-04-16 03:15:02 EDT (#)
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WITH SEMEN
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2008-04-16 03:14:46 EDT (#)
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fuck, my e d r f keys are stuck together again
Submitted by Val (user info) at 2008-04-16 02:08:59 EDT (#)
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i put 10 bucks in my car today and it only filled 1/4 tank. and i drive a shitty little saturn.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-16 01:53:36 EDT (#)
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So this guy, John Roland Martin writes a column for CNN and he addresses this exact issue of the "Average" guy and how we will never have a president who is one.
I don't really give two good shits about it except for the fact that his opening bothered me.
"(CNN) -- Can we all just stop the silly nonsense over who is an elitist and whether an "average American" will occupy the White House?
Listening to the punditry today, you would think folks who revel in the comedy of Larry the Cable Guy or Katt Williams really would have a shot at the White House.
It's totally absurd."
I friggin hate Larry the Cable Guy and I don't even know who the hell Katt Williams is. Seriously.
So maybe I'm not the "Average" American. Maybe most of you are right and the "Average" American is indeed the lowest common denominator.
In any event, here is the link to that guys piece:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/15/roland.martin/index.html
And even though I don't know who Katt Williams is, I certainly know who Kat Von D is.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/AQUA/24-263~Kat-Von-D-Posters.jpg
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2008-04-15 22:20:11 EDT (#)
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Did Apollo go all Arctic Monkey or what?
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-04-15 21:30:23 EDT (#)
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There are no good choices this go-around, indoninja and filledwithhate, because all three candidates with a possibility of winning the Presidency utterly fail to represent and support the views ot the majority of the populace of the country. You know, those of us who pay taxes and aren't a drain on the government? That majority. They all three represent and support the committee-generated views of the moderate aspect of their parties and those views are not mine or those of anyone I know or (I'd bet) those of you or anyone you know. They spend more time maligning each other than they do talking about issues, because only those of us who actually contribute to the prosperity of the country seem to care about the actual issues.
I agree with Indo's statement that there is more information available on the candidates and that's mostly good, except that there is also a lot of disinformation or simple lies about them out there too. Most American voters are too willfully ignorant to make a rational decision about who they want for President, so they allow themselves to join the popularity contest aspect of the election process. It's the ultimate TV show: 'American Idol' meets 'Who Wants To Be a Millionaire?' on the set of 'Wheel of Fortune'.
Enter FilledWithHate, stage left. The only way one can see any outcome of this election as a positive step for America is if that one is suckling at the government teat, draining better-used resources through some completely fictitious sense of entitlement. Fuck you for your ignorance and stupidity. Go on. Vote Hillary and then complain when she's taken away even more of what few Civil Rights you have left to you in the name of 'national security'. Vote Obama and then complain when the country's toleranced it's way into chaos in the name of 'international understanding'. Vote McCain and then complain when the economy tanks through political in-fighting in Congress in the name of 'bipartisianship'. Vote, but don't worry. Someone will take care of you so you don't have to. Won't be Clinton or Obama or McCain, though. More than likely that someone will be me or one of the unrepresented millions like me, and will you send a note of thanks? Hell no; you're entitled to be taken care of, right?
Submitted by Hookhand (user info) at 2008-04-15 21:26:28 EDT (#)
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Don't blame me, I wanted Edwards
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2008-04-15 21:12:36 EDT (#)
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There is no common man.
The US is not a nation of one people, it's a mish mash of cultures and lifestyles. The problem with a democracy is that it assumes that if each individual party acts in his own best interest, the prevailing winds will blow towards what is best for the country. In reality, people rally around pointless selfish goals and then vote based on some arbitrary talking point that is unrelated to the welfare of the country. The candidate with the most talking points that attract the most people wins.
Being honest is too complicated. It's easier to break people up into smaller target demographics and then custom tailor your personality to them when you have face time. You can pick and choose your "abortion rights", "anti gun control", "DC Jesus" slots and tally up the numbers to see where you stand without even bothering to hold an election.
The best we can do is to find someone who doesn't want to try to carry out any grandiose plans because they all fail, cost a lot of money, and infringe upon our rights in the process. Unfortunately nobody is drawn to the candidate who says "I'm not your momma, take care of it your damn self".
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2008-04-15 20:02:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (View user info) at 2008-04-15 11:41:22 EDT
I see treachery and deceit.
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ya think?
o well, better late than never
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-04-15 19:51:26 EDT (#)
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there is no such thing as 'the common man' thus there will never be a politician who represents such a beast.
the very REASON politicians are out of touch is because of this spin doctor focus group myth that there is such a thing as the common man.
it's the very flaw in democracy.
you know what? I don't CARE what the 'common man' thinks. The common man (as defined by the media) is an idiot loser and a scum bag.
In the words of the Arctic Monkey's "who wants to be a man of the people....when there's people like you".
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2008-04-15 18:56:50 EDT (#)
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Well, at least it's the LEAST dangerous fuckers who are up for election. (ie. NOT Huckabee )
Honestly, I don't care who gets it.
I will say, however, that the democrats need to stop playin 'fuckaround' and choose somebody. McCain is drawing way far ahead while this Obama/Clinton nonsense continues on. I would at least like to see something of a fair battle between the parties.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2008-04-15 18:05:59 EDT (#)
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I like bitter, a kräuter-bitter just after dinner.
You are simply with too many people to have 'all-around appealing' politicians.
What is the current administration doing to improve things for the common man?
I believe it's the same almost everywhere except for Ireland, their economy is booming.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 17:56:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:40:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:37:22 EDT (#)
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Hell, I remember how friggin gaga everybody was for Nixon. """
that makes you sound old.
I am old.
the caes is right I suppose
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2008-04-15 17:55:21 EDT (#)
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It's all so stupid. OMG OMG Obama can't bowl. How can anyone vote for someone who can't bowl?
Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2008-04-15 17:01:36 EDT (#)
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Mike, I've given this matter some thought as well. I too am disgusted with the political process. But take note, these candidates that are striving to be holier than thou and presenting an image of moral perfection are doing so because that is what the nation demands. The reason gossip mongers and campaign managers latch on to the slightest weakness or all-too-human flaw is because it makes a difference.
There are tons of people who won't vote for a candidate because, well, he didn't vote in the 1998 election, or he doesn't go to church, or he used the word 'hell', or he smoked some weed ten years ago, or, perhaps even more sadly, he's Black. Or she's a woman.
I think you're confusing this 'common man' you speak of with, well, people like you. You know. People with common sense, understanding, general knowledge of the way the world works, and a reasonable grip on reality. I don't think the majority of people possess these things. What's the expression? "Common sense isn't common."
Face it, the common man is a goddamn idiot. And that's who candidates have to win over.
Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-04-15 16:32:01 EDT (#)
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9/11 happened and changed the national psyche. So, everytime some politician wants to influence the American voter, they attempt (usually succeed) to scare the shit out of us with 9/11 and the Arabic threat.
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Exactly right. This works with other stuff, too - such as the fact that only something like 5% of sexual abuse on children are by a stranger. Most often they're by teachers/babysitters/supervisors, relatives, or other people that the child knows. Despite these facts, since the media knows everyone wants to hear about stories about paedos, they make tons of stories about paedos and how THEY'RE OUT TO GET YOUR KIDS!!!
Another thing the media does is a farce - when they write about an issue, instead of making a real story about it, they take two "experts" and essentially put what they said for both sides of the issue. This is what makes global warming into a "controversy", because the journalists hunt down the few scientists who don't think that it exists and talk to them.
Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2008-04-15 16:11:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:57:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:17:22 CDT (#)
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Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:50:31 EDT (#)
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I think that if there was a real, honest person who was a politician who would risk alienating one community for the good of actually getting something done, he would be voted for.
In fact, his name was Ron Paul and he wasn't voted for.
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Ron Paul wasn't and isn't honest.
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Got evidence to back that statement up, ninja boy?
VOTE WRITE-IN CANDIDATE BRAD LINZY IN '08
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:40:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:37:22 EDT (#)
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Hell, I remember how friggin gaga everybody was for Nixon. """
that makes you sound old.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:38:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:53:23 EDT (#)
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I thought this was going to be an explanation as to why you're a "biter."
I was way off.
I'm still laughing because of this.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:37:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:14:18 EDT (#)
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you shouldn't be bitter. the iraqis have freedom now. that was so important a few a years ago, no?
lol
people deserve their politicians...tough shit
You're absolutely right. I think all the candidates suck and most of the time we get what we deserve. Hell, I remember how friggin gaga everybody was for Nixon.
Go figure.
Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2008-04-15 15:08:16 EDT (#)
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publically financed campaigns
Submitted by MyTeeOne (user info) at 2008-04-15 14:29:06 EDT (#)
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No, it's the weirdo fundamentalists and the conservatives think birth control is sin that we need less of.
Google birthrate and teen pregnancy statistics. The highest rates are deep in the bible belt in places like Missisipi.
If there was compulsory realistic sex ed in schools that promoted condoms, the teen pregnancy rate would hit extreme lows.
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Um, no. It's because there is nothing else to do there. Seriously. I'm from small town middle America. Half the reason we smoked, drank, and fucked was because we were bored out of our skulls. Birth control would have been great but with or without it, we were just bored bored bored and wanted something to do. There was a movie theatre, a bowling alley, and a coffee house. That was our Friday/Saturday night choice. Is it any wonder we started drinking/smoking/fucking at a young age? Sex is fun and free.
Submitted by FilledwithHate (user info) at 2008-04-15 14:16:11 EDT (#)
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Mike is right, Drake is right, Indo makes some good points, Skrap is an asshat, Caul is simultaneously right and wrong, and Forenscgirl is strangely interesting.
And Ron Paul was just a nutjob; the abortion issue was just one problem, but his strange viewpoints on a return to a gold standard and abolishing the Federal Reserve means he would never be taken seriously, nor should he have been. Also, his appeal to racist groups and to one pro-Confederate States of America group would make me nervous.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:34:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:30:02 EDT (#)
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There are no good choices this go-around.
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how much of that is because of genuinely shitty choices or just more access to info on the part of concerned voters?
Ten years ago unless you read every article you could find from a variety of news papers for months leading up tot he elections you wouldn't as wide a spectrum of info as you get now in 30 min of on-line research.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:30:02 EDT (#)
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There are no good choices this go-around.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:23:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:04:03 EDT (#)
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You can always tell when it's election time.
Lots o' lots of 9/11 footage and footage of angry Arabs shaking fists and screaming "ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH!"
Professor and I were having drinks (Amaretto Sours for me, wicked strong Bloody Marrys for him) and I was explaining how the last "election" was one giant swindle and flat out MIND FUCK on the American people.
9/11 happened and changed the national psyche. So, everytime some politician wants to influence the American voter, they attempt (usually succeed) to scare the shit out of us with 9/11 and the Arabic threat.
With that said, I got on a toot and started listening to speeches of ex-Islamics, particularly women, like Wafa Sultan and Nonie Darwish. Holy Hell, Islam is one fucked up religion (not that the others are any better) and Muslims are some scary ass people. They usually won't go against their own (like denouncing 9/11 and the extremists) because to do so is heresy. Infidels are dogs and pigs and destined for the sword. They laugh at the liberals who bend over backwards to accomodate them because they will use tolerance to their advantage.
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Why listen to ex-islamists? Listen to ones preaching now, and you will hear the same stuff.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:17:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:50:31 EDT (#)
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I think that if there was a real, honest person who was a politician who would risk alienating one community for the good of actually getting something done, he would be voted for.
In fact, his name was Ron Paul and he wasn't voted for.
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Ron Paul wasn't and isn't honest. It is just hard for bad things to get out about you when the only people who write about you are your mouth breathing followers.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:04:03 EDT (#)
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You can always tell when it's election time.
Lots o' lots of 9/11 footage and footage of angry Arabs shaking fists and screaming "ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH!"
Professor and I were having drinks (Amaretto Sours for me, wicked strong Bloody Marrys for him) and I was explaining how the last "election" was one giant swindle and flat out MIND FUCK on the American people.
9/11 happened and changed the national psyche. So, everytime some politician wants to influence the American voter, they attempt (usually succeed) to scare the shit out of us with 9/11 and the Arabic threat.
With that said, I got on a toot and started listening to speeches of ex-Islamics, particularly women, like Wafa Sultan and Nonie Darwish. Holy Hell, Islam is one fucked up religion (not that the others are any better) and Muslims are some scary ass people. They usually won't go against their own (like denouncing 9/11 and the extremists) because to do so is heresy. Infidels are dogs and pigs and destined for the sword. They laugh at the liberals who bend over backwards to accomodate them because they will use tolerance to their advantage.
If you want some joyful reading, study up on Shira law.
Yeah. Such a beautiful and peaceful religion Islam is. </sarcasm>
I just paid my dues for my membership in the American Humanists Association, which is ironic because I really do hate most of my fellow human beings.
Not too happy with myself for that matter.
Submitted by Lib (user info) at 2008-04-15 13:03:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:53:23 EDT (#)
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I thought this was going to be an explanation as to why you're a "biter."
I was way off.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:50:22 EDT (#)
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there is no bait. i'm just sharing my opinion. you can ignore it if you like.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:49:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:46:51 EDT (#)
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where are all the gung ho americans of 2003-2004?
i'm saying this because your public opinion has such a short memory that what you think now won't even matter when election times come.
it will all be about the candidates personal lives and their love for america and who is better at fighting terror.
here are my predicitons:
John McCain: 95%
Any democrat candidate: 0%
A George W Bush 3rd term: 5%
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sucks when no one is taking your bait doesn't
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:47:51 EDT (#)
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Ltap- I agree the decision should be shared, and I'm not pro-abortion, as a personal matter, by any means. Fact remains, Ron Paul would overturn Roe v Wade if he had the chance and that's a fucking frightening thought.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:46:51 EDT (#)
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where are all the gung ho americans of 2003-2004?
i'm saying this because your public opinion has such a short memory that what you think now won't even matter when election times come.
it will all be about the candidates personal lives and their love for america and who is better at fighting terror.
here are my predicitons:
John McCain: 95%
Any democrat candidate: 0%
A George W Bush 3rd term: 5%
Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:41:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:26:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:52:39 EDT (#)
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sorry, this should have been a +2
and LTap, for as much of an asshat as he is...is right....Ron Paul was a good candidate but the fact that he didn't get the media play, mainstream media that is, is why the sheep didn't vote for him
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I wouldn't have voted for Ron Paul, not because I am a sheep, but because he touted freedom and liberty, yet if he had his way he would take away a woman's reproductive rights. So fuck that guy.
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Personally, I think that an abortion should be a decision between both parents, not just the mother. I mean, it's a burden on the mother but it can also be a monetary burden on the father. Put yourself in the position of a guy who knocked up some random woman who wants to keep the baby - you've got a huge money drain coming.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:37:20 EDT (#)
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yeah fuck Canada
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:34:10 EDT (#)
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nay, I say
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:33:45 EDT (#)
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I fully blame the state of America on the people living here.
Politicians are almost never fully to blame. We elect them.
I think if there were a few more people doing research on candidates instead of asking friends what they think, we'd at least have a stronger dollar than Canada.
I mean......it's Canada, for god's sake.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:33:03 EDT (#)
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horsefucker below
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:31:17 EDT (#)
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Women have rights?
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:26:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:52:39 EDT (#)
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sorry, this should have been a +2
and LTap, for as much of an asshat as he is...is right....Ron Paul was a good candidate but the fact that he didn't get the media play, mainstream media that is, is why the sheep didn't vote for him
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I wouldn't have voted for Ron Paul, not because I am a sheep, but because he touted freedom and liberty, yet if he had his way he would take away a woman's reproductive rights. So fuck that guy.
Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:23:57 EDT (#)
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Actually, it's sex that's the problem.
Less sex equals less babies which leads to less population which, in turn leads to less trash, motorcars needed, etc. which results in less money spent to clean up after it all and may even reduce the effects of global warming in some odd and irrelevant way.
Anyway, we need to have less sex. :)
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No, it's the weirdo fundamentalists and the conservatives think birth control is sin that we need less of.
Google birthrate and teen pregnancy statistics. The highest rates are deep in the bible belt in places like Missisipi.
If there was compulsory realistic sex ed in schools that promoted condoms, the teen pregnancy rate would hit extreme lows.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:14:18 EDT (#)
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you shouldn't be bitter. the iraqis have freedom now. that was so important a few a years ago, no?
lol
people deserve their politicians...tough shit
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:10:46 EDT (#)
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I'm bitter too, but thankfully, I'm drunk most of the time and don't think about it.
Also, don't forget to Vote for Shlongy in '08.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:10:10 EDT (#)
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But I'm getting old now....less sex might be a natural occurrence
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:07:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:05:11 EDT (#)
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I'll stick with the "More Sex + Pullout" Formula if its all the same to you
Haha. Do what you got to do.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:06:09 EDT (#)
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NOOOOOO on less sex. Yes on more birth control.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:05:11 EDT (#)
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I'll stick with the "More Sex + Pullout" Formula if its all the same to you
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 12:03:44 EDT (#)
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"thus burning more gas and what have you and I realized that with a little more personal responsibility, such as not throwing your trash in the street....95% of those costs could have been avoided or used to build a new park or some other positive thing."
Actually, it's sex that's the problem.
Less sex equals less babies which leads to less population which, in turn leads to less trash, motorcars needed, etc. which results in less money spent to clean up after it all and may even reduce the effects of global warming in some odd and irrelevant way.
Anyway, we need to have less sex. :)
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:59:38 EDT (#)
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I should stop but I'll also add this thought
I was driving into work the other day and as I went through town there was a crew of guys that were cleaning the street from one side to the other. They had two guys on each sidewalk with backpack blowers and a street sweeper driving down the road itself. Initially I thought that was showing pride in your city then I thought about how much gas was spent to do this clean up, salaries for the guys doing the work, the delays it caused in traffic thus burning more gas and what have you and I realized that with a little more personal responsibility, such as not throwing your trash in the street....95% of those costs could have been avoided or used to build a new park or some other positive thing.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:57:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:56:17 EDT (#)
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I am not a narcisist and I have only ever lent the most hilarious of criticism to my peers.
You're a mean old man.
Haha. I love Berty.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:56:17 EDT (#)
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I am not a narcisist and I have only ever lent the most hilarious of criticism to my peers.
You're a mean old man.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:54:11 EDT (#)
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in order for any candidate to succeed in this country they have to appeal to the lowest common denominator because that is where the majority exists.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:53:06 EDT (#)
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By the way, I'm not blaming politicians here.
I just wish there were someone I could really get behind and support. Someone I had confidence in to do the job.
Oh, and I am bitter. :)
I also agree with this:
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:48:22 EDT (#)
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what you should be bitter about is the general malaise that exists in the American populous about changing any of the problems you mentioned. It's always someone else's responsibility or 'the law' will take care of it.
we're a nation, or at least we represent ourselves wholly as a nation, that sways with the ebb and flow of whatever CNN/FOX/MSNBC tells us we should do.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:52:39 EDT (#)
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sorry, this should have been a +2
and LTap, for as much of an asshat as he is...is right....Ron Paul was a good candidate but the fact that he didn't get the media play, mainstream media that is, is why the sheep didn't vote for him
Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:51:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:50:31 EDT (#)
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Yes, it would work wonders if there was a politician who was a genuine person who admitted mistakes.
This isn't the fault of the politicians themselves.
Look at this example, say:
1. You are a politician running for office.
2. You have sex with a woman you aren't married with.
3. People find out and it's spread about by the tabloids.
4. Religious people think you are a sinful and evil man and won't vote for you.
What politicians really do is try to be everywhere at once and please everybody. Instead of listing everything they will do and what they will not do in black and white terms, they make impossible plans that involve curing deficit, lowering taxes, increasing healthcare and education, etc, that never work. When they ARE elected they never do anything at all because they're too afraid of pissing people off.
I think that if there was a real, honest person who was a politician who would risk alienating one community for the good of actually getting something done, he would be voted for.
In fact, his name was Ron Paul and he wasn't voted for.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:48:22 EDT (#)
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what you should be bitter about is the general malaise that exists in the American populous about changing any of the problems you mentioned. It's always someone else's responsibility or 'the law' will take care of it.
we're a nation, or at least we represent ourselves wholly as a nation, that sways with the ebb and flow of whatever CNN/FOX/MSNBC tells us we should do.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2008-04-15 11:45:15 EDT (#)
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