Might the 'Mayor' in buffy be the best 'Baddy' ever? (1379 hits)
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Submitted by iddqd (View user info) at 2007-09-17 05:14:26 EDT
(well, second best, let's be practical here)
Hi, welcome to 1997.
Ok, with the ubiquitous 'too-cool, seen it all' attitude of everyone on the internet out of the way, I was watching an old episode of buffy on TV as i was writing today, and it was yet another episode where Angel became bad.
But really, though, he was faking, and was actually good the whole time. Phew. That was lucky. Did Joss Whedon ever get tired of that plotline?
And there is no fucking way in the world anyone in their right mind would choose Buffy over Faith. Faith is at least 3.9 times hotter. A long time ago i wrote a recipe involving Eliza Dushku. It went something like this:
1 Large bottle of "baileys" (irish cream whiskey for the uninitiated)
1 roll of electrical tape
1 eliza dushku (baddy in "jay and silent bob strike back" and other, hotter slayer in "buffy")
method:
take electrical tape and shut that smarmy little bitches mouth, then
pour 3/4 of bottle of baileys on dushku;
chug remainder of bottle
serves one. possibly two if you have a reasonably open-minded girlfriend.
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Anyway, back to the point of the post. I was watching and it occurred to me that while Joss Whedon writes his plots by putting some plots on a spinning dartboard and throwing a dart at it, he can write the fuck out of a character. As was shown with the unfortunately canceled 'Firefly'.
The character in Buffy - The Mayor - is in my humble opinion one of the best baddies ever written: up there with Darth Vader, dare i say it. (Vader has taken a tumble from first in the rankings to, well still first, but with a fair bit less daylight since the whole "Padme! Nooooooooo" debacle)
It's all in the attitude. I mean, you just *like* the guy. He's a boss I'd work for happily. The nonchalance, the friendliness, the ticking off of "become invincible" off his 'to do' list, the guy has panache and style. He doesn't execute or really even menace his underlings when they inevitably fail. He pats 'em on the back, shows 'em that there's always another dastardly plot, then takes them out for mini golf. It's just unfortunate he was surrounded by so many cardboard cut out evil henchmen who just couldn't refuse the opportunity to gloat. Me, I'd have printed out that email everyone got, about the things not to do when being a film bad guy, and followed that fucker to the letter, then when we'd enslaved that measly little fictional town, I'd have asked for a pay rise.
And gotten it. Probably with a 'thankyou' fruit basket. That's just the kind of guy the Mayor is.
I love the Mayor and you should too.
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Submitted by rorrim (user info) at 2007-10-08 12:07:48 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/112319#2547917
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-09-17 15:59:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-09-17 15:52:08 EDT (#)
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'Scorpius' from farscape was a rather enjoyable bad guy as well.
Didn't watch Buffy - but that Sarah Michelle Geller is yummy.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2007-09-17 14:54:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2007-09-17 12:19:50 EDT (#)
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theres flak about my job?
news to me. my job rules. i get paid shit money, but im doing what i want and have a chunk of shares in a company that has a decent chance of making me my first mil by 35. hooray for me.
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And here you pretend to dislike Shlongy's bragging ways...
Although there is a splash of hidden mixed in here. Kind of like the worst of both worlds with a ridiculous accent.
And a shit degree.
Submitted by Siren (user info) at 2007-09-17 13:40:19 EDT (#)
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1. There was only one episode where Angel actually "faked" being bad.
2. Lots of people would chose Buffy over Faith because she has less STDs. And Sarah Michelle over Eliza because she's a better actor.
3. I love Joss and agree that Firefly's unfortunate cancellation shows the misguided judgment in today's mainstream entertainment.
4. The mayor is a grand villain... though I equally enjoy Caleb for his charm. And I love Nathan Fillion.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2007-09-17 12:19:50 EDT (#)
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theres flak about my job?
news to me. my job rules. i get paid shit money, but im doing what i want and have a chunk of shares in a company that has a decent chance of making me my first mil by 35. hooray for me.
i fell arse-first into it, like most things i do. i felt like i wanted a reasonably serious job and it turned up. way i figure - i rule so, the universe will provide. bout the same time i got it, a few freelance writing gigs turned up, so im doing ok. basically the plan is to write this, have the game to moderately ok then make another and get my name out there both through that, and by writing a phd on the way this genre is changing text and then tour around lecturing about how future game writers should go about doing their thing to fit this new genre.
then once im done with this, maybe ill have enough to say to write a novel, or actually write the film scripts i have in my head in a satisfactory way, not jsut in the half-arsed way ive done, well only one of em to tell the truth.
Submitted by Surgeon (user info) at 2007-09-17 12:08:10 EDT (#)
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diathermy..
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-09-17 11:28:28 EDT (#)
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I can say with honesty that I've never watched Buffy, the show or the movie.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2007-09-17 11:25:29 EDT (#)
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By the way, fuck all this flack about your job, it sounds like fun to me. How did you get a gig like that?
Submitted by rorrim (user info) at 2007-09-17 11:17:39 EDT (#)
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Srew (that's 'screw' in non-erronous typist fairytales) baddy, screw buffy, stupid series.
Have a hartwarming +2 for mentioning firefly.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:51:53 EDT (#)
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No idea as to what the fuck you're babbling about, here.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:22:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by AllyJeans (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:41:56 EDT (#)
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Second, I downloaded and read through the first five Buffy comics. They are HORRIBLE. I need some semblance of believability. Just a shred. Now that Willow can survive lobotomies and bring people back from the dead whenever she wants--which I thought she needed the magic fucking urn of Osiris to do, and that was destroyed--it's hard to buy anything or even worry about danger. No suspense.
By the way, that was the first comic I have read, and it scares me to think that that was considered quality for that medium.
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I agree. I was pretty underwhelmed by them.
Numbers 7 and 8 are the best so far, but they aren't written by Joss Whedon.
He writes a lot of comic books, you'd think he could transfer his own show.
Submitted by mystiamoon (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:20:38 EDT (#)
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The Mayor? Meh.
Evil Willow was the best baddy.
They should've kept her that way.
Would've been a better show.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:16:00 EDT (#)
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ahahahaha... I had to check the user info to make sure this was you.
I liked faith better too. Way hotter.
He was a great villian, and the interaction between him and faith was why.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:07:33 EDT (#)
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Some of the episodes of Buffy were quite clever. The one with the gentlemen for instance, where they did the entire episode silently with no dialouge. I like stuff like that, it's fun.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:04:57 EDT (#)
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as i said, he can write a great character, just dont ask for much plot from the man. which is perfectly fine, we all have our strengths. his is writing likable characters that are often genuinely funny, and that you feel genuine empathy with.
Submitted by AllyJeans (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:41:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:08:21 EDT (#)
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I fuckin' adore Joss Whedon's writing.
You can (well, at least I can) always tell when he's taken control of an episode. I found "Buffy" to be relatively lite compared to the "Angel" series - I prefer the spinoff and its characters much more. It was only in the final 2 seasons of "Buffy" that I thought a lot of the character depth came out. The 1st season of "Angel" struggled, but really once they hit the 3rd, it was great. I found it much darker, at yet with much more subtle comedy. The addition of Spike and the crew's running of Wolfram & Hart in the last season made for some of the best tales of the show. Did you know he's directly overseeing the DarkHorse production of the "Buffy: Season 8" graphic novels?
I missed "Firefly" when it was on TV. I became obsessed with all things "Firefly/Serenity" when the movie came out on DVD. I think it's fucking pathetic that we had more Reality TV pushing such shows off the air then. I'm quite interested to see Summer Glau (who played River Tam) tackle the role of a Terminator in the upcoming Fox show "The Chronicles Of Sarah Conor."
And by the way... what IDIOT at Warner Bros had 'creative differences' with Joss Whedon over the "Wonder Woman" movie script? 'Cause, it's not like he's proven himself writing strong, action-oriented women and all...
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First, The SCC pilot :
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Scala2023/video/1640117/TSCC-Nahbushi
Second, I downloaded and read through the first five Buffy comics. They are HORRIBLE. I need some semblance of believability. Just a shred. Now that Willow can survive lobotomies and bring people back from the dead whenever she wants--which I thought she needed the magic fucking urn of Osiris to do, and that was destroyed--it's hard to buy anything or even worry about danger. No suspense.
By the way, that was the first comic I have read, and it scares me to think that that was considered quality for that medium.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:27:59 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by ChaosJester (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:13:33 EDT (#)
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I'm am excessively proud of the fact that I have yet to watch an entire episode of either 'Buffy' or 'Angel'.
...blech.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:08:21 EDT (#)
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I fuckin' adore Joss Whedon's writing.
You can (well, at least I can) always tell when he's taken control of an episode. I found "Buffy" to be relatively lite compared to the "Angel" series - I prefer the spinoff and its characters much more. It was only in the final 2 seasons of "Buffy" that I thought a lot of the character depth came out. The 1st season of "Angel" struggled, but really once they hit the 3rd, it was great. I found it much darker, at yet with much more subtle comedy. The addition of Spike and the crew's running of Wolfram & Hart in the last season made for some of the best tales of the show. Did you know he's directly overseeing the DarkHorse production of the "Buffy: Season 8" graphic novels?
I missed "Firefly" when it was on TV. I became obsessed with all things "Firefly/Serenity" when the movie came out on DVD. I think it's fucking pathetic that we had more Reality TV pushing such shows off the air then. I'm quite interested to see Summer Glau (who played River Tam) tackle the role of a Terminator in the upcoming Fox show "The Chronicles Of Sarah Conor."
And by the way... what IDIOT at Warner Bros had 'creative differences' with Joss Whedon over the "Wonder Woman" movie script? 'Cause, it's not like he's proven himself writing strong, action-oriented women and all...
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2007-09-17 09:06:13 EDT (#)
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ahaha bitter, much?
Submitted by jamowilly40 (user info) at 2007-09-17 08:17:39 EDT (#)
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Jesus Christ on a cracker.
This was uncommonly painful to read, and characteristically boring to boot. I guess I should just prepare myself for content like this anytime I see a submission from you.
Submitted by ShapeShifter (user info) at 2007-09-17 08:16:07 EDT (#)
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Sorry, I couldn't get past the 'another episode of buffy' part, fag.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:55:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 11:49:15 BST (#)
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's cool. I'mo need about $30 consultancy fee though. You'd better pay or you'll be blacklisted with the American Medical Confederation.
Do you know what that means? It means they won't withold medical treatment, but if you go in for surgery you won't be coming back out again. The AMC is hardcore, take no prisoners, liquid badness.
If you don't have any many then I would reccomend fleeing to Canada or possibly Cuba.
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Soooo im ok being in England then.
I may still flee, fleeing has always appealed. parrot on my shoulder, scampering into the night sky away from wolves baying for my blood.
Hey I should of been in Buffy.
Submitted by RabiedRooster (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:49:32 EDT (#)
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Or it could be epididymitis Emission. I had this. It's a dull ache in your tubing. They give you antibiotics for it
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:49:15 EDT (#)
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's cool. I'mo need about $30 consultancy fee though. You'd better pay or you'll be blacklisted with the American Medical Confederation.
Do you know what that means? It means they won't withold medical treatment, but if you go in for surgery you won't be coming back out again. The AMC is hardcore, take no prisoners, liquid badness.
If you don't have any many then I would reccomend fleeing to Canada or possibly Cuba.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:46:19 EDT (#)
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Excellent , crossing my legs was hurting and I do like to sit in an intelligent pose for a moment.
Thanks Bertam.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:43:57 EDT (#)
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Chill Emission. It is a urinary tract problem. It'll probably sort itself out, but if it hasn't cleared up by tommorow go to the doctor and get them to do a urinealysis (if that is a word).
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:38:24 EDT (#)
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No no no this is deadly serious or me being a hypochondriac, its a odd one and I will have to go to the docs but it comes and goes, pain wise. Its a dull almmost stomach ache in the shaft of penis.
I wish I hadnt mentioned this, I will end up with penis cancer by the end of the day.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:36:05 EDT (#)
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The marauders in Serenity ruined it for me. I mean seriously, how could they operate space ships without organisation or higher reasoning? It takes maths and shit. I seriously cannot see some crazy guy who's mind is all 'VIOLENCE VIOLENCE VIOLENCE' sitting there and debugging the nav comp.
Then there's the fact that it is actually the same show as Andromeda only less ghey. I mean they're both sort of based on the whole early America/civil war America eras. Really I'm kind of surprised neither show featured a dude in a stovepipe hat with mad facial hair.
Anyway, here is a comic call Cowboys and Aliens: http://www.drunkduck.com/CowboysAndAliens/index.php
Submitted by AllyJeans (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:34:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:29:44 EDT (#)
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Does anyone knows what causes penis ache?
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Is it like heart ache? Did its vagina leave it for another penis?
Submitted by RabiedRooster (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:32:28 EDT (#)
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Too much or lack of Tossing the salad
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:29:44 EDT (#)
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Does anyone knows what causes penis ache?
Submitted by AllyJeans (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:28:29 EDT (#)
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The assassin in Serenity is sort of the same way now that I think of it. Evil, but in a way you can respect.
Submitted by AllyJeans (user info) at 2007-09-17 06:15:31 EDT (#)
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The mayor had a soft spot for faith. That made him "complicated."
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:42:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DrogoRoch (user info) at 2007-09-17 10:33:23 BST (#)
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Now I stick to happy things like the News and documentaries about people less fortunate than myself, at least I know how they will end.
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Awww you have to love the sexy weather girls.
Submitted by Natures_Biggest_Mistake (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:39:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:34:17 EDT (#)
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I never liked the fact that they never dealt with the fact that Buffy was a necrophilliac. I mean she screwed both Angel and Spike, two guys who were meant to be clinically dead. I'm talking room temperature and not breathing.
Now that's pretty darn fuck'n wrong. If any lady reading thinks that it is not wrong, just get your fella to wack off into some tupperware, put it in the fridge and see what it feels like the next evening using a turkey baster. I'm guessing extreemly unsexy.
Also wossname who played Angel was a terrible actor. Seriously, seriously, bad.
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here here! great review.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:37:13 EDT (#)
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i dont think any of them were particularly good actors, but they were well-written and well developed, which is whedons real strength.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:34:17 EDT (#)
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I never liked the fact that they never dealt with the fact that Buffy was a necrophilliac. I mean she screwed both Angel and Spike, two guys who were meant to be clinically dead. I'm talking room temperature and not breathing.
Now that's pretty darn fuck'n wrong. If any lady reading thinks that it is not wrong, just get your fella to wack off into some tupperware, put it in the fridge and see what it feels like the next evening using a turkey baster. I'm guessing extreemly unsexy.
Also wossname who played Angel was a terrible actor. Seriously, seriously, bad.
Submitted by DrogoRoch (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:33:23 EDT (#)
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I never watched Buffy. But then i never watched many American programmes, probably due to the fact that you get engrossed in them and 24 episodes later you are still no where near any real resolution.
And then they keep going.
and Going.
And going.
And going, until no one is actually watching them anymore and they just seem to stop one day without actually resolving the things you want them too.
Now I stick to happy things like the News and documentaries about people less fortunate than myself, at least I know how they will end.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:26:48 EDT (#)
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I prefer watching 'House'
Hugh Lauries accent freaks me out.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:25:50 EDT (#)
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Heroes freaks me out, it is really weird. People love it as its so face paced but I always forget whats going on , but that says more about me than the show.
I was joking about the ten year thing....I never liked Buffy, for some reason I always considered it a girls programme.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:24:02 EDT (#)
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So ein Quatsch!
Scheiß Kinder.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:21:52 EDT (#)
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I dunno, I guess he was meant to be a manipulative and abusive type with a friendly voice but in the end he just became this inherantly good person who took troubled young ladies out on innocent picnics and just happened to have a plan to transform himself into a demon snake thingy.
When you think about it, he was just a good ol' boy with goals. He's better than the cheerleaders dad in Heroes anyway, I mean that dude's wife is just... I mean what kind of guy would MARRY someone like that?
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:21:36 EDT (#)
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no, read the post, i was jsut watching an old episode today and hence the post.
actually, to be honest i never really watched the show when it was contemporary. ive never really been much of a tv watcher.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-09-17 05:19:47 EDT (#)
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Ten years you have waited for that post.....ten years.
The best baddie is someone else.