Berty returns to his home away from home (1286 hits)
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Submitted by Berty (View user info) at 2007-07-03 05:20:34 EDT
The new laws have come into effect and now that foul pariah that is the smoker is forever banished from all space deemed public. No longer will his hacking cough befoul our ears. No more shall we have to endure the vile stench of his horrid, brown overcoat. Never again will our lungs play host to his insidious vapours.
Nay, for now they shall smell of Glade plugins! Musty drapes can be torn down in favour of riotuous displays of fine, and acceptable, hangings. Greatest of all is the benefit to our health, yes our health my brothers, that will fortify us with renewed vigour to tackle the challenges of the modern day!
It was with trepidation that I set foot in my old haunt, my home away from home of so many years. I had grown accostomed to the smells of tobacco ingrained into the very living wood of the old pub. The cigar hanging out of the smiling landlords face, his daughter smiling and laughing with the old boys at the end of the bar... So many fond memories in spite of the insidious burnt smell that would infest my clothing at the end of an evening.
In spite of my trepidation I forged ahead into this brave new world. Imagine my amazement when I witnessed the transformation that had come over my old haunt! Gone was the mannequin head in a fez that resembled one of the regulars, in it's place stark illumination of flower pots and tasteful decor. Banished was the stogie from the landlords mouth, replaced instead with a polished customer service manner and tidy shirt.
Sadly the Burtons was still off, they'd been having some problems with recent batches but I was assured that it would be back on next week. I ordered an IPA and joined my friends at their table. The place was quite lively, as it often is on a saturday. I'd not been to the place in months, but the clientele seemed representative of middle england, as it always had, with middle aged chatter aplenty. We weren't the only youngsters in the bar with a pair of young lads, dressed in dark tones and talking about career options and taxing benefits (they reminded me of me, the poor hapless souls) and even a gaggle of young ladies, venturing to and from the toilets in a gang.
I lay my hands on the freshly varnished table and puzzled over an odd shaped glass whilst pretending to listen to Robert rant. Was it a vase or was it some manner of novelty drinking glass? It had some manner of plastic poking device but that could have been dunked there by an uncaring drinkerette. I found my eyes rummaging through the carpet got a wayward bouquet.
It was at that moment that everything clicked into place and the smell of the place, the tone of the patrons voices, the carriage and stance of the barmen crystalised into a unified feeling of place. It was my mothers house, when family were visiting. That nervous effort to produce an emaculate image. That soft abandonment of the hope of fun. Ultimatly though the feeling was one of a roomfull of people killing, rather than spending, time.
I very much fear that this will be the way of things now. This environment will not survive, nobody wants to go to their mum's house on saturday night, and it will inevitably be replaced by the gastropub and the chain pub and the Bar, with a capital B. I worry that in saving our lungs we have sacrificed a piece of our hearts but I draw comfort in knowing that I rarely venture out these days anyway. These days I find a few friends round to watch a film, drink and talk in the comfort of my home a far more civilised venture anyway.
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-07-05 11:02:14 EDT (#)
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ubmitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-05 02:28:03 EDT (#)
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There's no "weakness" here. I CHOOSE to smoke, because I LOVE to smoke.
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but we choose not to smoke and by smoking around us you take that choice away from us. that smoke trails behind someone with a cigarette for a long while. rolling up your window cuz someone's smoking in the car in front of you is a pain but whatever.
with any other addiction you're allowed to have it basically until it affects other people. alcoholics are tolerated as long as they don't drink and drive or go home and beat their wives and kids. a heroin addict is left alone until they start robbing people. crack addicts are left alone until they do the same. when a woman gets pregnant while addicted and keeps up with any addiction she generally has the child taken away from her because she's putting another's life at risk. that's what smoking is. it's an addiction that when sated around other people puts them at risk. people die of cancer from second hand smoke and that is not a rare instance. granted if you're caught with most other substances the legal reprimands are a bit worse than some others but still until it really makes an impact around you, it's ignored for the most part.
there are other stupid actions that go along with smoking. idiot who tosses their butt out the window that lights the grass fire and that's also not that uncommon which is why in some states it carries heavy fines to toss a lit cigarette out a window beyond littering. including jail time depending on what the fire risk is and what state you're in.
your body is chemically addicted to smoking. if you stopped cold turkey you'd go through withdrawl. you can deny that all you want but it's true. you'd be agitated, you'd get jittery, you might not have your pain sensors on fire because you're not addicted to an opiate but you won't be functioning normally. your lungs have lost capacity, your cholesterol and blood pressure probably are higher than they would be if you didn't. second hand smoke does that to other people to and you have no idea which nonsmoker around you has the genetic predisposition to develop throat cancer.
you maybe chose the first one, but after the first few packs you didn't any more, you're just feeding an addiction and in some cases forcing other people to share your habit. i will admit a bar is generally known for being smokey and it's enter at your own risk. but smoking at coffee shop entrances that i have no other way around, outside bookstores and movie theaters, in playgrounds or in the car ahead of me puts me at risk that i cannot reasonably avoid.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-07-05 10:02:35 EDT (#)
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review #1: i don't drink single malt scotch. i drink irish whiskey. much nicer. thing is, i can go weeks or months without having one. this is the differnece. if i were to never have one again, i would be fine (though maybe a little saddened).
ocassionally enjoying a 'sinful' pleasure is part of what makes life worth living.
gluttonously satisfying every smallest whim and desire is another thing all together...it's a weakness because your addictions - coffee & cigarettes - control you to the point where you have to use them to awaken, to identify yourself, and, i'm guessing, to help you keep track of the days progression. it's a chain. Hello, slave.
OR, just in case you didn't like that one
review #2: you just keep fooling yourself about how COOL you are in your *snortHAHAHAHAAAAA* BLAZE OF GLORY. god, what a teenager way to look at smoking a cigarette...i guess it fits in with the whole image you try to project though, so whatever.
you sound almost as insane about smoking as ETS does about Ron Paul and the WTC. congrats on that. i wonder if in your impassioned ranting about this in real life you have talked about your 'right' to smoke? i bet you have.
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review #3: welcome back, Berty. i hadn't noticed you were gone.
Submitted by Charlilot (user info) at 2007-07-05 03:03:34 EDT (#)
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I'm a smoker and I really don't like smoking around non smokers. Especially kids and old people. When I visit someones house and even at my own place I smoke outside.
But still there's something about a pub and smoking that just go hand in hand.
Even when I was a non smoker I didn't care when people smoked in the pub. None of my non smoker friends care either, but if we weren't drinking then it would probably be a different story.
But people who make a big deal of it when you're outside, pretending to choke and giving you evil looks just piss me right off.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-05 02:28:03 EDT (#)
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There's no "weakness" here. I CHOOSE to smoke, because I LOVE to smoke.
I love the taste, I love the sensation. I have absolutely no desire to quit.
"Oh noes, but you're killing yourself and all those around you!!!"
Quit yer bleeding, Priscilla... everything kills a man. Meat, sugar, salt, and everything else in your food.
But go ahead... exercise while the tears run down your shunken cheeks because you forgot to pop your dosage of vitamins.
The air is poisoned from your car, and waters from the toxic sludge leftovers from that nearby Nuclear power plant.
Better get your duct tape out to seal off the outside world.
Don't even get me on that single-malt you're sittin' there sipping on.
Awww, what's the matter? Are all you little bitches that scared, still clinging to mummy's dress???
Who wants to live forever in misery when you can burn through this with glory???
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-07-05 00:43:20 EDT (#)
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that is fucking ridiculous, kk, and you know it.
what the fuck do you keep trumpeting that for? 'Nobody dies healthy'...NO SHIT. They become unhealthy from your smoke, THEN they die.
it's more than about a 'smell', its about health.
you either know this and choose to ignore it in the face of your weakness and self gratification at any cost (read, addiction) - OR - worse, you haven't really ever decided to let yourself be aware of the dangers posed to the human respiratory system by tobacco smoke because of this weakness.
Submitted by Stagger_Lee (user info) at 2007-07-05 00:40:14 EDT (#)
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So the first time you smoked you breathed it in just like it was air? No coughing? No spluttering? Get out of it.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-05 00:16:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-04 17:09:48 EDT (#)
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I have decided. If I ever meet Kaos - I am going to drop my guts as frequently as my bowels can manage it. If he does not like it - he can choose not to breathe.
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That's perfectly fine with me.
The "RIGHT TO CLEAN AIR" is a fucking lie, a bullshit propaganda tool originated by the insurance companies.
No offense, please... but all you bleeding cunt children need to toughen the fuck up.
No one dies healthy and if you seriously "can't handle" a smell, go home to your blanket, my Princess.
Submitted by experima (user info) at 2007-07-05 00:07:37 EDT (#)
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it's a passing of a very old way of life for some. there's something to be said of the loss of that. and something to be said for the loss of the old pubs and the rise of the chains, which was happening anyway, but will be magnified now. change is difficult if you're on the losing side, of course. and adaptation will happen, but it won't bring back the atmosphere, clouded though it may have been. some of the best people I ever had the pleasure to know down the pub smoked, and you know what? God bless 'em.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-04 17:09:48 EDT (#)
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I have decided. If I ever meet Kaos - I am going to drop my guts as frequently as my bowels can manage it. If he does not like it - he can choose not to breathe.
Submitted by Barnymeinhoff (user info) at 2007-07-04 14:02:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2007-07-04 13:07:27 EDT (#)
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Smoking is cool, but I had to give up due to coughing up gobs of tar.
I never go out anymore, but I imagine I will once the baby has grown up or something. It is nicer to go home not stinking of fags.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-04 12:48:58 EDT (#)
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RE: Inion De Trua...
"But mummy, teh icky smoke smell makes me wanna go pukey!!!"
Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2007-07-04 12:20:23 EDT (#)
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Minority doesn't matter? What is it with white people thinking that they can always pick on the minority?
Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2007-07-04 12:15:10 EDT (#)
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supposed to read area.
Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2007-07-04 12:14:48 EDT (#)
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the are that I live in got affected pretty heavily with the smoking ban. Most bars reported a loss of 70-90% of the buisness they had pre-smoking ban and are still suffering. Of course the kids can breathe better now in those bars.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-07-04 11:54:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:33:39 EDT (#)
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the simple fact that you think your govt. represents the majority of your country means that you def. aren't an American. Maybe im not understanding you here, you're saying that the majority should cater to the minority? Because unfortunately the annuls of history most certainly say that the minority is ALWAYS teh one to get fucked by the majority, its been that way since the first cave man got his group of friends together and took over the watering hole. The minority got fucked and went somewhere else cause the majority took that shit over. "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" remember?
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right, you're an idiot. but that's besides the point. all those other "bad habits" you talk of are voluntary unless you get raped in the bathroom and have your mouth held open while someone pours a fifth of monarch down your throat. also, it's not just bars. i walk outside a building, almost ANY building and there are smokers crowded around the door. so exiting and entering a lot of places i have to pass smokers and cough and hack and get nauseated by the disgusting smell to the point of throwing up sometimes. the other choice is hold my breath while i pass because these people are fogging up the only way i have to go but even then 10 seconds of walking by a smoker is enough to pick up the smell in my clothes and jacket. especially since my senses have not been dulled by tobacco and i can still smell and taste everything.
children do not choose to smoke. the MAJORITY of people at restaurants do not smoke at least while eating yet a smoking section never really clears the air for everyone else.
on top of that, if you're american you should probably realize SMOKERS ARE THE MINORITY IN THE COUNTRY AND THE MAJORITY WON HERE in some places anyway. less than 30% of the american population smokes and i can't fucking wait until every other state in the goddamn union gets the freaking clue. in the uk 12 million adults are estimated smokers, that's only 20% of the population. in case you can't do math, that means more people DON'T smoke than do. and a fuckton of people don't go to pubs and bars and clubs because they can't stand the stench. the revenue won't even be affected.
as a non-smoker, whether or not i feel like showering right after i get home from drinking actually comes into play before i go out becuase if i spend half an hour in a smokey bar all of a sudden i drag that smell to my car and to my bed. which means i'll wake up with that smell. generally i end up stripping all my clothes and dousing my hair in body spray so at least my pillow will smell like cherry blossom instead of old cowboy killer.
you are in the "few" category. you are the minority. so you can get fucked.
(sorry berty)
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-07-04 11:32:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-07-04 11:32:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2007-07-04 10:35:45 EDT (#)
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my take on this debate when it comes down to "well your causing us all to smoke." Which is fine and true. But I breathe your cars emissions everytime I step into a parking garage. Hell, everytime I step out the front door I breathe yucky car smokey stuff. It is my uneducated belief that cars emmit way more toxic emissions than cigarettes do. Yet I do not see vehicles demonized like the smoker is. I do not see those yuppy pussies, as senor hartman so eloquently put it, complaining that "ewww my yuppy pussy ass can't take breathing all of these emmissions. please I'd rather not live another day if I have to breathe another vehicles' emissions. and have you seen what they do to an over populated environment? They are not only helping to kill me they are killing the world. Boo hoo. I'm a pussy." /dies
I'm not saying that I am not completely independent of a vehicle or that people should be. It's the hypocrisy that makes poots angry.
breathe vehicle emissions that could peel most kinds of paint/kill the planet=good
breathe cigarette smoke because I CHOSE to go to a bar where I know that people will be smoking because that's the way it has been for hundreds of years and my pussy ass will just have to put up with it if I want to get in the pants of the easy chick at the end of the bar who happens to be a smoker and carrier of certains std's that I don't mind getting because I'm horny drunk and I don't give a fuck about anything except this awful fog of cigarette smoke because it's yucky=bad?
also I'm not a fan of the state telling the propreiter how to run his/her buisness. If a person wants a roomful of nasty, brown toothed, stinky breathed, tattered clothed, diseased, digenerated smokers as their clientel, then that is their buisness. <-pun
Fanito.
generalised unintelligible statements above.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2007-07-03 21:39:39 EDT (#)
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the smoking ban has been in effect here for a couple years now and the difference is obvious - my local used to be packed out, now we're lucky if 20 people show up. i also refuse to go to a club where it's a mission to have smoke.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:53:14 EDT (#)
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Im up for that, possibly a sealed Smoking room with vents, much like bars in Amsterdam!
holy hell, are you telling me that a discussion on Uber jsut came to a reasonable and kind conclusion? hold on a second I need to check myself for the sign of the beast...
nope not there, good show all around, now if we could just get this to the proper leaders...
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:46:53 EDT (#)
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What if every bar applied for the smoking license? on the basis that they felt it would get more customers?
Back to square one.
Make it law that pubs/bars etc have to keep non smokers free from smoke. Sort it out however you like.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:45:34 EDT (#)
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I think forensic has it right, the "all or nothing" approach to the ban isnt working because its alienating one group while totally catering to the other. Having a bar REGISTERED as a smoking establishment would greatly decrease the number of complaints had about the ban, while at the same time non-smokers who dont wish to be around smoking can make an informed decision about where they choose to spend their free time. The only downide would be if all of your friends were smokers and you weren't it would get pretty lonely.
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:44:47 EDT (#)
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I'm with FG. Have smoking and non smoking bars. simple. They have the license thing in spain, works a treat.
Then Red could be happy too, he still gets his smoke free pubs, we still at least get somwhere we can go for a beer and a smoke without standing in the rain. Everyone wins.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:40:33 EDT (#)
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I think that people should be reasonable to one another. And if that means respecting one another's choices without impacting on people - then so be it. In this case, I don't think smokers should be allowed to make others smoke.
The minority needs protecting to prevent mob rule.
Smokers probably are the minority now. I'd rather people didn't smoke at all - but if they must, then let them do it without impacting on others.
I like pubs. I like the company. The booze. And the atmosphere. I don't like the smoke. I don't think it's too much to ask that the smokers keep their habits to themselves.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:39:04 EDT (#)
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This smoking ban business---I never understood why there can't be a few establishments that allow smoking.
If an establishment wants to serve alcohol, they have to have a license for it, no? Then why can't the same go for smoking?
Somebody wants to open a bar. They apply for a liqour license. If they want to allow smoking, get a license for that too. Publicise on the outside of the bar that there is smoking within.
The non smokers, duly informed, can either enter or go to another bar that doesn't allow it.
Seems simple enough to me-but what do I know?
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:36:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:29:22 EDT (#)
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I think at the very least - a pub should have a large non smoking area. I don't have a problem with smokers per se - only that it makes my night less pleasant and healthy. Let me choose my own poison, so to speak.
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here here, thats a great idea. I know alot of states here in the U.S. are going that way. I think its a great idea, it keeps everyone happy, just like at a restaraunt or eatery.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:33:39 EDT (#)
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the simple fact that you think your govt. represents the majority of your country means that you def. aren't an American. Maybe im not understanding you here, you're saying that the majority should cater to the minority? Because unfortunately the annuls of history most certainly say that the minority is ALWAYS teh one to get fucked by the majority, its been that way since the first cave man got his group of friends together and took over the watering hole. The minority got fucked and went somewhere else cause the majority took that shit over. "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" remember?
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:29:22 EDT (#)
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I think at the very least - a pub should have a large non smoking area. I don't have a problem with smokers per se - only that it makes my night less pleasant and healthy. Let me choose my own poison, so to speak.
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:27:28 EDT (#)
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If you don't like a smokey bar, go to a none smoking bar, or stay home and stop whinging.
I think my house is exploding. must dash
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:23:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 22:20:03 BST (#)
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but you're also choosing to go to a place where bad habits are a'plenty
Everyone knows that bars are smokey, all over the world, if you were in the minority of those who didn't take part then stop bitching (you should stop bitching because you are the minority). If you want to go to the bar and meet broads and get laid, its a sacrifice you make. But now, because of the few people who DIDNT smoke at the bar complaining the entire dynamic of the bar has changed, its become a place of restriction, not a place of release for an extremely large dynamic of individuals. Thanks.
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You can't say if a majority of people want it then the minority get fucked over. For examples see 'history.'
Now the elected government of my country decided that it was a good idea to ban smoking. They represent the majority. So what you see here is your argument being hoisted on your own petard.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:20:03 EDT (#)
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but you're also choosing to go to a place where bad habits are a'plenty
Everyone knows that bars are smokey, all over the world, if you were in the minority of those who didn't take part then stop bitching (you should stop bitching because you are the minority). If you want to go to the bar and meet broads and get laid, its a sacrifice you make. But now, because of the few people who DIDNT smoke at the bar complaining the entire dynamic of the bar has changed, its become a place of restriction, not a place of release for an extremely large dynamic of individuals. Thanks.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 17:06:48 EDT (#)
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Doesn't anyone else see the irony in complaining about someone elses bad habit in a place that is DESIGNED for bad habits? its a fucking BAR not a library, not a school, not a shopping mall. A bar is a place where bad habits thrive (you know gambling, drinking, smoking, casual sex, drunken tom foolery) and have been thriving since the first people said "you know what, i want to go have some good UNCLEAN fun and fuck everyone who thinks I shouldn't." So I'm sorry that I get a little offended when one person is allowed exercise their bad habit in a place but i'm forced to go outside in the freezing cold cause some fucking yuppie faggot doesnt want their abercrombie shirt to smell like they were at a bar. How fucking hypocritical is that?
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If you want to indulge your habit - stand out in the cold so you don't force others to share your habit. This is sensible.
You can walk in a bar and not have a drink. You can walk in a bar and not have sex.
If you walked into a bar - you used to have a smoke by default.
You are Forcing others to smoke. This is the problem.
I choose to drink. I do not choose to smoke.
Simple.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 16:58:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 16:38:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 20:50:59 BST (#)
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No, pussy behaviour is feeling the need to change how a large group of the population chooses to enjoy their time (healthy or not) simply because your bothered by it in a public forum. Have you noticed that alot of the people that go to bars are smokers? The minority of you health freaks that have literally made it a pain in the fucking ass for you're average bar goer to go out anymore make me sick. By the way, I never knew anyone that died healthy.
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Terrible grammatical and spelling aside - your argument is utter utter bollocks. What you are doing is inflicting your habits (which impact negatively on those around you) on others. If you are talking choice, consider those who had no choice in the past except to put up with you. You wont of course, because that would make your eyes cross as you had to think about people other than yourself.
Spacker.
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Doesn't anyone else see the irony in complaining about someone elses bad habit in a place that is DESIGNED for bad habits? its a fucking BAR not a library, not a school, not a shopping mall. A bar is a place where bad habits thrive (you know gambling, drinking, smoking, casual sex, drunken tom foolery) and have been thriving since the first people said "you know what, i want to go have some good UNCLEAN fun and fuck everyone who thinks I shouldn't." So I'm sorry that I get a little offended when one person is allowed exercise their bad habit in a place but i'm forced to go outside in the freezing cold cause some fucking yuppie faggot doesnt want their abercrombie shirt to smell like they were at a bar. How fucking hypocritical is that?
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2007-07-03 16:40:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 15:50:59 EDT (#)
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No, pussy behaviour is feeling the need to change how a large group of the population chooses to enjoy their time (healthy or not) simply because your bothered by it in a public forum. Have you noticed that alot of the people that go to bars are smokers? The minority of you health freaks that have literally made it a pain in the fucking ass for you're average bar goer to go out anymore make me sick. By the way, I never knew anyone that died healthy.
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Get that man a soap box and a mega phone, he's on to something. I can not say too much more because the ban makes me furious. When I got back to England a really heard that it was all going ahead, I campaigned with the rest of them, but by then it was all far too late.
btw....good to see you about Berty.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 16:38:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 20:50:59 BST (#)
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No, pussy behaviour is feeling the need to change how a large group of the population chooses to enjoy their time (healthy or not) simply because your bothered by it in a public forum. Have you noticed that alot of the people that go to bars are smokers? The minority of you health freaks that have literally made it a pain in the fucking ass for you're average bar goer to go out anymore make me sick. By the way, I never knew anyone that died healthy.
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Terrible grammatical and spelling aside - your argument is utter utter bollocks. What you are doing is inflicting your habits (which impact negatively on those around you) on others. If you are talking choice, consider those who had no choice in the past except to put up with you. You wont of course, because that would make your eyes cross as you had to think about people other than yourself.
Spacker.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-03 15:55:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 15:50:59 EDT (#)
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By the way, I never knew anyone that died healthy.
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Sarge FTW!!!
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 15:50:59 EDT (#)
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No, pussy behaviour is feeling the need to change how a large group of the population chooses to enjoy their time (healthy or not) simply because your bothered by it in a public forum. Have you noticed that alot of the people that go to bars are smokers? The minority of you health freaks that have literally made it a pain in the fucking ass for you're average bar goer to go out anymore make me sick. By the way, I never knew anyone that died healthy.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 15:33:31 EDT (#)
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Not wanting to breathe second hand smoke and risk getting cancer is Pussy behaviour?
Well I think I shall smear crude oil on the neck of anyone who sits next to me from now on.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2007-07-03 13:56:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-03 10:55:05 EDT (#)
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Bah, you make too big an issue out of this.
Eventually the novelty will wear off, and everyone will be loitering outside with their cigarettes.
Soon after that, the private clubs that allow smoking will open and business will drop off from your place considerably.
"But mummy, teh icky smoke smell makes me wanna go pukey!!!"
Your bloody tampon appears to be leaking out your jumper again, Princess...
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Im with KK here, people have been smoking in Pubs and Bars and "saloons" and god knows everywhere else now for more than a few hundred years, suck it the fuck up, booze and smokes go together and they always will. If you're too much of a pussy to handle it stay home and watch a lifetime movie in your jammies on and eat low-fat no-calorie weight-watchers ice-cream bars while you constantly coat every surface in you're house with lysol and wash you're fucking hands with sanitizer 500 fucking times a day. Dammit I am so pissed at the pussy attitude of people these days, GROW THE FUCK UP.
P.S. I apologize for the rant, working in a office with these "pussy" types makes me crazy, give me a working mans blue collar job anyday...
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-03 13:42:34 EDT (#)
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those laws don't matter in a warm country like england.
smoking a cigarette at -30C cuz you can't be bothered to get ur coat fucking sucks
Submitted by CHR15 (user info) at 2007-07-03 12:34:07 EDT (#)
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Not bothered either way, pubs were always for a sunday night wind down, you're probably right in that they'll eventually be replaced by something else. It sounds like you need a little more fun in your life.
I think it was Kaos King who said something about private members clubs allowing you to smoke, but they can't because it is a place of work.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2007-07-03 12:16:44 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2007-07-03 12:08:11 EDT (#)
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Berty!
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2007-07-03 11:56:36 EDT (#)
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Drogo, me neither. Though I shall visit 'The Angel' tonight for a game of arrows.
My first test.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-07-03 11:42:54 EDT (#)
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It sounds crazy, I know..but you will adapt.
Submitted by DrogoRoch (user info) at 2007-07-03 11:26:07 EDT (#)
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I haven't been in a pub since the ban started, not suprising as it only came in on sunday and I hibernate during the week.
It will be strange but i'm sure we will get used to it like everything else. I'm looking forward to when they ban us from going out completely due the possible dangers we may encounter, then I can legitamately sit at my desk and play on the internet all day.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-03 10:55:05 EDT (#)
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Bah, you make too big an issue out of this.
Eventually the novelty will wear off, and everyone will be loitering outside with their cigarettes.
Soon after that, the private clubs that allow smoking will open and business will drop off from your place considerably.
"But mummy, teh icky smoke smell makes me wanna go pukey!!!"
Your bloody tampon appears to be leaking out your jumper again, Princess...
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-07-03 10:50:56 EDT (#)
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ah the end of an era
you'll adapt
Submitted by PokeyMen (user info) at 2007-07-03 10:26:50 EDT (#)
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This drinking at home business with a few friends is part of the economic ghettoisation of the middle classes.
There are very much two Englands. The scum and the people who go to extraordinary lengths to avoid the scum.
It's worse when you come from scum and shudder at the thought of your childhood.
Love,
Apollo.
Submitted by ghola (user info) at 2007-07-03 10:08:21 EDT (#)
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+2Berty
Submitted by messmind (user info) at 2007-07-03 09:37:45 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2007-07-03 09:35:01 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-07-03 09:15:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by RabiedRooster (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:34:26 EDT (#)
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Yeah at least the 'baccy smell covered up the B.O in clubs
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he actually has a point there. this worries me now.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-07-03 09:12:52 EDT (#)
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i'm still glad i won't smell crispy and stale at the end of the evening.
Submitted by shandythedog (user info) at 2007-07-03 07:25:46 EDT (#)
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a weird thing has happened at the local club here
they have built a miserly little outdoor area for smokers about the size of a toilet.
because it is so small and horrible, smokers out there start chatting with each other. talking to strangers! being friendly!
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2007-07-03 07:21:28 EDT (#)
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You could still smoke on Saturday... ban didn't come into effect until Sunday.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:56:17 EDT (#)
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You're being silly as the foul stench of tobac leafs your lungs beer will become tastier - then you will nod and smile - for the world my boy, is your packet of dry roasted nuts!
want pub now
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:50:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by orph (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:29:12 EDT (#)
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Here, here. The pub is no longer the pub for me - what am I going to do when the football starts?
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I believe we shall see the advent of the outdoor projection screen, but by and large I imagine people will watch from the safety of the sofa. Excellent news for pay per view providers!
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:48:54 EDT (#)
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I ordered my decoder for the start of next football season.
We'll drink and smoke at my place.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:41:49 EDT (#)
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smokers are jokers
Submitted by RabiedRooster (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:34:26 EDT (#)
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Yeah at least the 'baccy smell covered up the B.O in clubs
Submitted by orph (user info) at 2007-07-03 05:29:12 EDT (#)
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Here, here. The pub is no longer the pub for me - what am I going to do when the football starts?